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  1. #181
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    Cyberserker's Avatar
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    Y'majha Tyaka
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Copy/pasted from another thread:

    Great Gubal Library starts and the tank starts telling me how to do my job. While I'm responding he starts the first boss fight. I get there and everyone is at 10% to 20% health. I got hit by a mechanic while frantically trying to salvage this dumpster fire. Tank starts insulting me for getting hit by mechanics. We try again and the tank got hit by mechanics. I didn't. After the boss the tank tried to pull the whole dungeon. Keep in mind I wasn't on my lv70 overgeared WHM. I was on a lv59 in a lv59 dungeon wearing a bunch of random gear, some of which is slightly below my level. I popped every cooldown and the tank still died the second lightspeed wore off. Tank goes postal. Another guy in the group tried to talk sense into him and tell him it was his fault. I got kicked anyway.

    Edit: And here's one from today. I was healing a lv61 dungeon. The tank was in lv50 gear and wasn't using cooldowns. His health was up and down like a yoyo. Somehow we got through it with only one death and no wipes, but I was sweating the whole time. I only got one commendation. I mean come on that was god tier healing. Can I at least get two?
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    Last edited by Cyberserker; 10-27-2018 at 07:42 AM.

  2. #182
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Doma today, because I wanted to do one of the SB dungeon for fun as a healer.

    3 new (?) players.
    Drk randomly dropping every stance during pull (even darkside), not using CD, not taking aggro properly
    Brd and blm not aoing, taking almost every aoe, had the best rotation ever (blizzard => Fire => Blizzard => Fire III => Blizzard => Fire...)
    Each pull took forever.

    Was as Ast... decided that it was better using my cards on me only to throw some buffed gravity.
    They sure had the chance I was patient enough to go through this cause I came to have fun and I hadn't.
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  3. #183
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    LazyTitan87's Avatar
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    Lazie Titan
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I do Kefka once a week on normal to build up extra crystaloids for extra jobs. I don't want to spam it because it would get boring fast, but I've only actually done it 3 times in total, so I don't always remember every single mechanic correctly.

    I and the other healer get knocked off the platform two times in a row because I forgot the hand switches on the second one. The other healer at this point gives up and on the next pull, pulls the boss, dies and says "Kick me." The tanks had recovered everything at that point, but the healer refused to accept rez from the red mage, through to the end of the boss. I didn't bother because I figured the healer wouldn't accept after saying that. We downed it with just me healing, with no one else getting knocked off the platform by the mechanics, and at the end, this healer wasn't fazed or troubled. They rolled on the loot and another person said "Congratulations on your free kill."

    I've been annoyed in fights before to people not doing mechanics, and I've been frustrated enough to leave before, but this had me floored for a good thirty minutes afterwards. The only good news I had was that because the person wrote something in chat, I was able to blacklist them.
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  4. #184
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LazyTitan87 View Post
    I do Kefka once a week on normal to build up extra crystaloids for extra jobs. I don't want to spam it because it would get boring fast, but I've only actually done it 3 times in total, so I don't always remember every single mechanic correctly.

    I and the other healer get knocked off the platform two times in a row because I forgot the hand switches on the second one. The other healer at this point gives up and on the next pull, pulls the boss, dies and says "Kick me." The tanks had recovered everything at that point, but the healer refused to accept rez from the red mage, through to the end of the boss. I didn't bother because I figured the healer wouldn't accept after saying that. We downed it with just me healing, with no one else getting knocked off the platform by the mechanics, and at the end, this healer wasn't fazed or troubled. They rolled on the loot and another person said "Congratulations on your free kill."

    I've been annoyed in fights before to people not doing mechanics, and I've been frustrated enough to leave before, but this had me floored for a good thirty minutes afterwards. The only good news I had was that because the person wrote something in chat, I was able to blacklist them.
    If you would ever like to blacklist someone after a duty but they haven't said anything in chat everyone you've been in a party with will be visible in your contact list which is in the Social menu I believe. If you click on their name options come up like friend request and blacklist.

    Congrats on soloing that though!

    I found myself in a similar situation yesterday in o12n. I queued for normal raid roulette on WHM because I miss healing and I need tomes and... wow this SCH.

    I can't parse (ps4) but I bet their dps wasn't bad (up until they were attacking the male with the debuff which they proceeded to do for the rest of the fight) but they literally weren't healing. Near as I could tell they were basically doing a dummy dps rotation, complete with 3 energy drains in rapid succession each time they used Aetherflow.

    When I say no healing I mean literally zero heals cast. I wonder if they may have been a bot to be hoenst, though when one of the tanks died while they were split up (the only non-falling-off death btw) they asked the SCH where the heals were and were told "WHM has it" so... maybe not a bot, maybe just a stupid person? Who knows.

    Either way bless their heart they won the shaft I've been passively trying to get for a while now. Just goes to show the worse you play the better your loot rolls are.

    If you happen to see this SCH-friend... stop it, get some help.
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  5. #185
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    RopeDrink's Avatar
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    Chloe Redstone
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Levelled my AST last week who is now enjoying my WHM's hard-earned gear-set. Decided to spice up roulette's with my newly maxed character and got Dun Scaith. Ever wiped on first boss before? Me neither, yet I had the pleasure of seeing it twice in one go. Never before have I seen so many people in such huge numbers repeatedly get knocked off the boat over two whole attempts, each and every single time. In addition, my co-healer likely didn't realize that we can now use all cross-class abilities... Not once did they use Esuna vs doom, not even when they got doom on themselves. We (thankfully) didn't wipe to the rest of the bosses, even if Diabolos resulted in predictable shenanigans and the fabled 'close' victory where 80% of each alliance was eating dirt, but man, it was the messiest roulette I've seen in months.

    Funnily enough, the most annoying part was 2nd boss, who states the raid will be weakest to X element, so I dutifully begin to turn the floor-elements to the opposite and then... 90% of the raid intentionally start running all over them randomly and repeatedly to destroy all your progress due to not knowing what to do. Thankfully, my frustrated "If you don't know the mechanic, please stop walking over tiles" comment led to the second one going much smoother.
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    "And all the Hyur's say I'm pretty sage – for a White Mage!"

  6. #186
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    LazyTitan87's Avatar
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    Lazie Titan
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RopeDrink View Post
    In addition, my co-healer likely didn't realize that we can now use all cross-class abilities... Not once did they use Esuna vs doom, not even when they got doom on themselves.
    The key to solve this is to not esuna them.

    >
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  7. #187
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    Wice's Avatar
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    Eluned Wice
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Today I had one of those "I may not be amazing, I may not be super duper awesome. But I am very good" moments.

    You've heard- or seen- those tanks that like to go into Doma Castle with their sets of unaugmented Shire Gear, with only one or two pieces of actual Stormblood equipment and a refusal to use defensive cooldowns?

    This Tank was in mainly Hellfire gear. You know, the i230 gear you can buy with Tomestones that no one actually uses for anything except Glamour because you can just buy Shire gear with those Poetics? Actually went into this dungeon with that. Their gloves and belt were i260 gear from Sirensong sea. They also didn't like defensive cooldowns very much. The SAM ended up tanking most of the dungeon due to a combination of the Tank not having the numbers to keep aggro, and this SAM's aversion to enmity management tools like Diversion. I was there as an AST- I play all healers but if I were to rank them AST is my worst suit. Many deaths, many raises, one wipe on the last boss. But, dungeon cleared, which is the most important thing.
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  8. #188
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    TalithaSolarien's Avatar
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    Talitha Solarien
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LazyTitan87 View Post
    The key to solve this is to not esuna them.

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    The key to solve this would require SE to create a debuff icon for the purgeable Doom status and apply it here (and in Wanderer's Palace (hard) has well). Also removing the debuff icon after a Esuna would help a lot ...
    I'm sure the majority of healers don't know that the these Doom debuffs can be cleansed.
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  9. #189
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    Pepsi_Plunge's Avatar
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Lich
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wice View Post
    This Tank was in mainly Hellfire gear. You know, the i230 gear you can buy with Tomestones that no one actually uses for anything except Glamour because you can just buy Shire gear with those Poetics?
    To his defence: He may not have known about this, as you get a whole set of hellfire-gear at the end of the main storyline of HW.

    Being a noob myself I didn't know about the Rowanas tomestones-shop with the i260 (upgradeable to i270) equipment either, until a fc member of mine told me where to get it.
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  10. #190
    Player
    Wice's Avatar
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    Eluned Wice
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    To his defence: He may not have known about this, as you get a whole set of hellfire-gear at the end of the main storyline of HW.

    Being a noob myself I didn't know about the Rowanas tomestones-shop with the i260 (upgradeable to i270) equipment either, until a fc member of mine told me where to get it.
    While you do get a full Hellfire set in the 3.x storyline, you also get lots of pieces of better than Shire Gear during the Stormblood questline and dungeons up to Doma Castle. I didn't get the "there are players new to this duty" message when we began so I can only assume this was not the tanks main job and they'd just been fairly lax about improving their gear- as I said they only had a couple of bits of gear from Sirensong Sea on them- nothing from Shisui of the Violet Tides, nothing from Bardam's Mettle (and both of those always give a piece of job appropriate gear at the end) and none of the HQ i270+ gear the Stormblood main quest throws at you like it's going out of fashion before you get to Doma Castle.
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