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  1. #51
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    Arcell's Avatar
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    Arc Jurado
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomisk View Post
    Like they supposedly tested the game before launch.
    Things have changed a lot since launch. Also I'm sure things were tested before launch, they just weren't very good/complete ideas. Add onto that the fact that the game was probably rushed out the door before even the devs thought it was ready. The current team has done pretty well with the changes. Aside from a few oversights they've done a lot of things right.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I swear these forums are the perfect example of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf."
    I'd liken it more to Chicken Little.

    Pre-patch - "The sky is falling!"
    Shortly after patch - "The sky is falling!"
    Post-patch - "What were we complaining about, again?"
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  3. #53
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    Rutelor Mhaurani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsalvato View Post
    I'm saying that from my point of view this is a game-design flaw and a sign that they are underestimating the importance of the game-experience players have to face while levelling, thinking only about people who already have CNJ 50.
    I fail to understand how people come to decide they are ready to dissect mechanics, and criticize all sorts of things, to which they don't, and haven't had, any form of access.

    You do realize, don't you, that (despite your claim) you actually lack the view in your point of view? You seem to expect, based on conjectures and previous experience, that things will follow the formulations of your brain; but you don't KNOW that they will. I would be inclined to think that previous experience is not adequate equipment to sit down to judge what is to come in the game.

    Now, if your conjectures are correct, and they manage to align with the reality of the game when it is released in full form, then I will, at my time, cheer you on, as well as your complaints. But I think it's a tidge early for any of that.
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  4. #54
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    Can't all classes equip cure? Besides as far as the overhealing is concerned and not being able to use "Cure 1" we don't simply won't know till it comes out now will we? At level 10 you might have 300-400 hp and Cure might heal 200? (Hypothethical since I haven't had a job that low since Cure was like 20 mp and auto aoe) At level 20 you might have 600-800 with Cure doing about 400? Then kinda capping out at like a base 30-40% heal with Cura coming into play with a 60-70% heal? So in retrospect all classes should be able to give themselves and others a nice little Cure with Conjurer being the only one that can drop that bomb cure with Cura. I don't see big cures being needed till after 30 anyways.
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    "Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator and at least the horse never said anything stupid."

  5. #55
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    Meleena Steelheart
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    Get more healers in party, problem solved.
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  6. #56
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    Alderton Morris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutelor View Post
    I fail to understand how people come to decide they are ready to dissect mechanics, and criticize all sorts of things, to which they don't, and haven't had, any form of access.

    You do realize, don't you, that (despite your claim) you actually lack the view in your point of view? You seem to expect, based on conjectures and previous experience, that things will follow the formulations of your brain; but you don't KNOW that they will. I would be inclined to think that previous experience is not adequate equipment to sit down to judge what is to come in the game.

    Now, if your conjectures are correct, and they manage to align with the reality of the game when it is released in full form, then I will, at my time, cheer you on, as well as your complaints. But I think it's a tidge early for any of that.
    Could you do me a favor and copy/paste this into about half the threads on this board? If even 1% of the OPs here had this click in their noggins, the boards would be a better place...
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  7. #57
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    Zavier Mhigo
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    We'll have to play the game to see if its balanced. In end game situation you stack multiple healers anyway, in a party situation you'll probably only still need one. There are two cure spells, cure and cura, so the only people limited to just 1 cure would be every other class except cnj. It's just useless to complain right now when no one has experimented.
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  8. #58
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    I don't know why people are dooming and glooming about DoM - DoM is all I have played and all I probably will ever play - and I think the changes are looking great! And we get an AoE ability in the 30's so I don't really see the problem of curaga coming in later. How often do people use AoE heals, anyway?
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  9. #59
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    every time they fell the urge to die. Hopefully tanks can tank easier at lower levels
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danavia View Post
    I don't know why people are dooming and glooming about DoM - DoM is all I have played and all I probably will ever play - and I think the changes are looking great! And we get an AoE ability in the 30's so I don't really see the problem of curaga coming in later. How often do people use AoE heals, anyway?
    I've used Curaga once. After I came back from the Aetheryte, party leader told me to never use it again. Heal who you can, raise the rest later.
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