Would you be ok with no new tank or healer in 5.0?

[Mesarthim]

But at the same time they need to get the current tanks and healers balanced out.

They had an entire expansion to do that. So I'd like my options increased instead of being on the short end of the stick for a second expansion in a row.

[Yuinna]

*bangs pots and pans together loudly*

Let us have Dancer!!

But in all honesty, if we don't get a new healer and/or tank in 5.0, I'd be surprised. Disappointed as well, but mostly surprised.

[NanaWiloh]

They had an entire expansion to do that. So I'd like my options increased instead of being on the short end of the stick for a second expansion in a row.

Willing to give SE two expansions of no complaining about Balance in return for those classes?

[Mesarthim]

Willing to give SE two expansions of no complaining about Balance in return for those classes?

No, not really. If they actually stuck to keeping their promises that'd be one thing.

[Kinazu]

Willing to give SE two expansions of no complaining about Balance in return for those classes?

Easily, won't be hard to complain if people are going to unsub. I'll be honest, if they don't release a new healer and tank next expansion, I'll just drop my sub in a heartbeat and never come back.

It's easy to say that we should wait, but you also have to keep in mind that those tanks and healers mains will feel extremely left out if they don't get something new for two expansions in a row. How do you keep players? Give them new things, give them something new to toy around with.

What else did you want to add? Two more DPS jobs, again?
But what would happen then? I bet a lot of Healer and Tank mains will shift to DPS if they were left out again and the queue times would be even worse.

Balanced or not, they had Stormblood to figure something out, that's one of the reasons we didn't get a new tank or healer, they can't use the same excuse again because that means that they did jack to balance it in Stormblood.

[NanaWiloh]

No, not really. If they actually stuck to keeping their promises that'd be one thing.

No such thing as promises in game development. Developers only talk about what they want and would like to do with a game as promises are like advertisements it backs them into a corner.

[Mesarthim]

No such thing as promises in game development. Developers only talk about what they want and would like to do with a game as promises are like advertisements it backs them into a corner.

Then they'll learn the hard way as noted by the post above yours. FFXIV isn't the only game a lot of us can play and most don't require a monthly sub.

[NanaWiloh]

Easily, won't be hard to complain if people are going to unsub. I'll be honest, if they don't release a new healer and tank next expansion, I'll just drop my sub in a heartbeat and never come back.

It's easy to say that we should wait, but you also have to keep in mind that those tanks and healers mains will feel extremely left out if they don't get something new for two expansions in a row. How do you keep players? Give them new things, give them something new to toy around with.

What else did you want to add? Two more DPS jobs, again?
But what would happen then? I bet a lot of Healer and Tank mains will shift to DPS if they were left out again and the queue times would be even worse.

Balanced or not, they had Stormblood to figure something out, that's one of the reasons we didn't get a new tank or healer, they can't use the same excuse again because that means that they did jack to balance it in Stormblood.

If they add new classes then the communtiy better grow a pair and accept blame if it throws things further out of balance. Blame SE for the current classes not being balance but dont blame them if new classes added at your request make it worse..

[NanaWiloh]

Then they'll learn the hard way as noted by the post above yours. FFXIV isn't the only game a lot of us can play and most don't require a monthly sub.

No developer makes promises sub or no sub..

[kikix12]

Absolutely not. Seeing as there should be as many tanks as healers and tanks+healers should be as close to the number of DPS as possible, we absolutely need more tanks and healers.

Also, argument that "it's for the balance" is just plain stupid. What's the point of balancing the classes at lvl70 if they will no longer be balanced at lvl80?! To balance the classes they'd need to not bring any LEVELS, not jobs. It's impossible to properly balance the classes at the new level cap without the game going live for several months. And just about the entire two years with the way they decide to release content that is actually needed to gather data on the jobs balance. So there's NEVER going to be a time to add new healers/tanks...

And as was said before, DPS are more broken than tanks/healers. If any group shouldn't get a new representative for balance, it's the DPS.

Broadly yes. But in more detailed terms.

If you wanna be a tank you have 3 choices
If you wanna be a healer you have 3 choices. If you wanna be a caster you have 3 choices. Off you wanna be a melee you have 4 choices. Ranged. You have 2.

That's convenient omission...

If you wanna be a DPS you have 9 choices.
Out of that, if you want casters you have 3.
If you want ranged you have 2.
If you want melee you have 4.

If you wanna be a tank you have 3 choices.
If you wanna be a caster you have 0.
If you wanna be a ranged you have 0.
If you wanna be a melee you have 3.

If you wanna be a healer you have 3 choices.
If you wanna be a caster you have 3.
If you wanna be a ranged you have 0.
If you wanna be a melee you have 0.

Don't compare sub-categories to categories. It's a tree. The tree is divided into three which are then further divided...but only DPS have any variety altogether.

They need some job to build the hype like DRK did.

Blue Mage would be more "hype" than Gunblade. Along with healer it's the most asked for class. It would also be the first "mage" tank, and it'd allow "<Color> Mage" to fill every spot in a party.

Gunblade on the other hand is not really a class that existed ever before. Heck, a Blue Mage COULD be a gunblade job, seeing as that class have changed their weapon numerous times, from sabers, through whips all the way to forks...