Would you be ok with no new tank or healer in 5.0?

[NanaWiloh]

They had an entire expansion to do that. So I'd like my options increased instead of being on the short end of the stick for a second expansion in a row.

Willing to give SE two expansions of no complaining about Balance in return for those classes?

[Mesarthim]

Willing to give SE two expansions of no complaining about Balance in return for those classes?

No, not really. If they actually stuck to keeping their promises that'd be one thing.

[NanaWiloh]

No, not really. If they actually stuck to keeping their promises that'd be one thing.

No such thing as promises in game development. Developers only talk about what they want and would like to do with a game as promises are like advertisements it backs them into a corner.

[Mesarthim]

No such thing as promises in game development. Developers only talk about what they want and would like to do with a game as promises are like advertisements it backs them into a corner.

Then they'll learn the hard way as noted by the post above yours. FFXIV isn't the only game a lot of us can play and most don't require a monthly sub.

[NanaWiloh]

Then they'll learn the hard way as noted by the post above yours. FFXIV isn't the only game a lot of us can play and most don't require a monthly sub.

No developer makes promises sub or no sub..

[Kinazu]

Willing to give SE two expansions of no complaining about Balance in return for those classes?

Easily, won't be hard to complain if people are going to unsub. I'll be honest, if they don't release a new healer and tank next expansion, I'll just drop my sub in a heartbeat and never come back.

It's easy to say that we should wait, but you also have to keep in mind that those tanks and healers mains will feel extremely left out if they don't get something new for two expansions in a row. How do you keep players? Give them new things, give them something new to toy around with.

What else did you want to add? Two more DPS jobs, again?
But what would happen then? I bet a lot of Healer and Tank mains will shift to DPS if they were left out again and the queue times would be even worse.

Balanced or not, they had Stormblood to figure something out, that's one of the reasons we didn't get a new tank or healer, they can't use the same excuse again because that means that they did jack to balance it in Stormblood.

[NanaWiloh]

Easily, won't be hard to complain if people are going to unsub. I'll be honest, if they don't release a new healer and tank next expansion, I'll just drop my sub in a heartbeat and never come back.

It's easy to say that we should wait, but you also have to keep in mind that those tanks and healers mains will feel extremely left out if they don't get something new for two expansions in a row. How do you keep players? Give them new things, give them something new to toy around with.

What else did you want to add? Two more DPS jobs, again?
But what would happen then? I bet a lot of Healer and Tank mains will shift to DPS if they were left out again and the queue times would be even worse.

Balanced or not, they had Stormblood to figure something out, that's one of the reasons we didn't get a new tank or healer, they can't use the same excuse again because that means that they did jack to balance it in Stormblood.

If they add new classes then the communtiy better grow a pair and accept blame if it throws things further out of balance. Blame SE for the current classes not being balance but dont blame them if new classes added at your request make it worse..

[Hestzhyen]

If they add new classes then the communtiy better grow a pair and accept blame if it throws things further out of balance. Blame SE for the current classes not being balance but dont blame them if new classes added at your request make it worse..

1. SE are staffed by big boys and girls who should know how to accomplish what they get paid to do- we can absolutely blame them if healers are still imbalanced on the cusp of a new expansion.
2. We have every right to call foul if they decide to not add healer/tank jobs due to the same imbalances that they claimed mea culpa for before SB launched over two years ago.
3. We all know by now that SE does not take fan requests seriously unless the staff feels they can manage it, so if they take on the task of adding new class options and can't balance around them, then they probably should find new day jobs.
4. Why in the world are players not allowed to complain if SE mucks it all up and lets us down? They're a major game company with the resources to float the #2 MMO in the world- I have no pity if they can't even match f2p titles when they charge a sub + buying the game at a minimum.

[NanaWiloh]

1. SE are staffed by big boys and girls who should know how to accomplish what they get paid to do- we can absolutely blame them if healers are still imbalanced on the cusp of a new expansion.
2. We have every right to call foul if they decide to not add healer/tank jobs due to the same imbalances that they claimed mea culpa for before SB launched over two years ago.
3. We all know by now that SE does not take fan requests seriously unless the staff feels they can manage it, so if they take on the task of adding new class options and can't balance around them, then they probably should find new day jobs.
4. Why in the world are players not allowed to complain if SE mucks it all up and lets us down? They're a major game company with the resources to float the #2 MMO in the world- I have no pity if they can't even match f2p titles when they charge a sub + buying the game at a minimum.

Community is also big boys and girls who know balance is off and is asking for something they know may throw it off further. Balance is a open wound and your asking them to dump lemon juice: new classes on it knowing it may hurt. When it does hurt you turn around and scream at them for dumping juice on the wound when you asked them too. They can't seem to solve the balance issue but its ok lets make it worse and add new classes..

[Mesarthim]

Community is also big boys and girls who know balance is off and is asking for something they know may throw it off further. Balance is a open wound and your asking them to dump lemon juice: new classes on it knowing it may hurt. When it does hurt you turn around and scream at them for dumping juice on the wound when you asked them too. They can't seem to solve the balance issue but its ok lets make it worse and add new classes..

Gee it sure would be great if they worked on an expansion that didn't include any tanks or healers for the sake of balancing the ones we do have. Oh...

Look how well that turned out? Do we go 2 expansions of no new healers and tanks? 3? 4? When do we expect this "balance" you speak of? To be fair the balancing is better than it was but DRK and WHM still need a looking at but it isn't as doom and gloom as you speak of. They just need to dig themselves out of this hole they've dug when it comes to mitigation and raw healing which again is something they've had years to solve.