Old PvP rewards should be attainable through frequent season ranking/participation

[Nirokun]

I will preface my reply to you by saying that this reply is not to you, actually. It's not directed at you because you deem yourself a "collector" and don't care about anything other that being able to acquire everything in the game.

This reply is just to undo any misinformation you cause, so that others reading this thread can not be swayed wrongfully.

If the same rewards were attainable season after season, saying "I'll get there next time!" would make a lot more sense. It would be akin to downing a boss in Savage -- you learn the mechanics, optimize your class and work with your team. Victory is practically assured this way.

Same rewards, no. Seasonal rewards is more like the Olympics, you compete for a medal for that season. I cannot participate in the Olympics, win a gold medal, and ask for it to say another year. One, it doesn't make sense at all, two, I didn't compete against the people from that year, at that time, with that competition.

Season 1, my first top 100, was when machinists (and to a smaller extent, Bards) could outright DELETE you. I made it to the top 100 on summoner alone, I never benefited from having a machinist on my team because I play ranged. The pool of players were vicious, and I climbed through, against their overarching superiority by finding and exploiting a weakness in their gameplay (a reliance on buffs and being relatively weak between their incredible bursts, I could virus the burst and nullify one of their strongest buffs and make the burst non-lethal). You cannot do that nowadays and retroactively claim to do what I did. I believe there was only 1 other summoner on the board when I made top 100, I never played against him (I remember because I would try to learn from other summoners when matched against them), but I heard he was an amazing summoner.

Feast can stack the deck against you right from the start (poor matchmaking + a very limited and shrinking pool to draw from + queues that last for hours), and that can make even the most determined player feel defeated right out of the gate.

This is irrelevant, this happens to everyone and everyone has the same opportunity to compete.

And I agree that losing SHOULD spur you to try harder -- but we all know that losing is the core source of the toxicity in Feast. So much so that they had to remove the chat and adjust the skills to encourage more people to play (which doesn't seem to have helped much IMO). Even when they made it so that only your highest score counts on the boards, it didn't really do much for participation. If you lose, you still have to make up lost ground for the points you lost. Combine that with multiple losses and the aforementioned deck stacked against you in some cases, and realistically, who's going to look at that and go "Oh shucks. I just need to try harder!"

Losing resulting in toxicity is a personality issue. Because *some people* have poor sportsmanship doesn't mean you dismantle the competitive model and give the prizes away, that doesn't make sense. Deal with the problem directly and address directly those that bring down the game mode. If people don't want to play the game mode for fear of *some people* being negative, then they don't deserve top 100 because they didn't compete.

They could even tie old rewards to number of kills/assists just as they did the minions. It's no less a show of skill if you killed or healed X number of players in the small seasonal window that those rewards were available versus doing it at your own pace. Some people hunt to the exclusion of everything else and already have their Centurio Tiger. Others go at a more relaxed pace - and know that it will still be there even if it takes them years. That encourages people to continue.

Top prizes are top prizes. They are not handouts, they are not participation rewards. Achieve top 100, get top prizes. Anything less is, quite literally, "less a show of skill" because you didn't win as much as the people that made into top 100.