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  1. #11
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I'm surprised we can't summon our retainers as a Companion. I'd love for them to flesh out Companions more, but then again they're really only useful at the beginning of an expansion or when leveling low level jobs. Didn't YoshiP say we'd be able to have our magitek as a companion eventually? Sigh...
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  2. #12
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    Camille Blythe
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I'd rather not see them as they would just be another reason for people in this game to not actually put in effort towards their main jobs or socialize with others to get things done.

    "Oh, it's alright! I don't have to play well! The NPC's will take care of me or won't care!"

    I really don't want that to be XIV's next future and used as an excuse as to why someone can't do a dungeon properly.
    My fortune cookie says: People who place themselves on pedestals tend to make big leaps.
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  3. #13
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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Soma Kagami
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    My fortune cookie says: People who place themselves on pedestals tend to make big leaps.
    It's not really a leap and it's bad enough we have people at level 70 who also don't realize that Lucid Dreaming not only halves your enmity, but recovers MP as well.

    We don't need those same people using NPC sidekicks as another excuse to not read their tool tips or at least put as much effort as they spend watching Netflix into playing the darn game during a dungeon run.
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  4. #14
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    Eros Grehryss
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    Black Mage Lv 100


    Really bro, just blacklist them so you wont encounter the players who shrivel your e-peen. Its this attitude that's the reason there's witch hunts on innocent people over a game (blugartr for example has a name and shame topic for both FF online games to the point it gets to real life threats on their person/doxxing.) When really just grow up, you'll never see these people in real life. the level 70 "gimps" will ether eventually learn to play better or move on.

    Anyway, As much as I and some others would like a trust system XI and XIV's engines are different-- in XI your fellow and trusts "talk" to you, while your chocobo kwehs and you can change their attack styles. (You could change your fellows attack style but not as easy as XIV's chocobo) Trusts are set in stone.

    It'd likely take years to implement and even then it's likely to be buggy.

    Surprising Aymeric fans have not raided here already to have their beloved elf at their sides
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  5. #15
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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Soma Kagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDuck View Post


    Really bro, just blacklist them so you wont encounter the players who shrivel your e-peen.
    It's not really e-peen to expect players to have a common sense of competence and courtesy if they're playing with other people. It doesn't have anything to do with e-peen and more or less to do with actual manners. Really bro. You don't pretentiously waste another person's time in real life, why would anyone think it's okay to do it in an online game is beyond me. Blacklisting players never solves the problem as you're merely delaying it and letting it become a problem for the next person down the road, and so on and so forth.

    Its this attitude that's the reason there's witch hunts on innocent people over a game (blugartr for example has a name and shame topic for both FF online games to the point it gets to real life threats on their person/doxxing.) When really just grow up, you'll never see these people in real life. the level 70 "gimps" will ether eventually learn to play better or move on.
    No, it's this attitude that turns other people away from the game when they realize that the entire player base is coddled and the moment you call them out for not putting it at least 50% effort in doing something, you're some kind of crazy, toxic person that would like other people to read things themselves every once in a while.

    When really just grow up
    The irony of someone telling me to grow up and they're using a spongebob meme and trolling at the same time. Bro, please.
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  6. #16
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    Camille Blythe
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    It's not really a leap and it's bad enough we have people at level 70 who also don't realize that Lucid Dreaming not only halves your enmity, but recovers MP as well.

    We don't need those same people using NPC sidekicks as another excuse to not read their tool tips or at least put as much effort as they spend watching Netflix into playing the darn game during a dungeon run.
    Trust me, you can take away all the "coddling" and you'll still have all the same problems you do now. You'll always have people who don't try. You'll always have those who simply aren't as good as you even when they do try. People will still be people no matter what. It's ridiculous to deny the entire world a useful tool because a handful of idiots will misuse it.
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  7. #17
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    It's ridiculous to deny the entire world a useful tool because a handful of idiots will misuse it.
    It's ridiculous to deny the entire world roulettes because a handful of socially inept people are incapable of dealing with other players. Specially in a healthy playerbase estimated over 500k instead of a dying niche MMO estimated to have below 50k players.

    No offense to the OP but we can't have an idea be useful for a fraction of people only to ruin everything for the majority.
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    Last edited by JohnSpawnVFX; 11-03-2018 at 09:03 PM.

  8. #18
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    Camille Blythe
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    It's ridiculous to deny the entire world roulettes because a handful of socially inept people are incapable of dealing with other players. Specially in a healthy playerbase estimated over 500k instead of a dying niche MMO estimated to have below 50k players.

    No offense to the OP but we can't have an idea be useful for a fraction of people only to ruin everything for the majority.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you're saying that a handful of socially inept people will use their NPCs to do everything and thus completely ruin the roulette system for the entire game community of 500,000+. It's almost as if you've defeated your own argument, but again I could have read your post wrong.
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  9. #19
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    Ximus Greget
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Oh God, please not another "please implement FFXI features" thread... I'm still traumatized that the fact SE brings Eureka to Eorzea.
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  10. #20
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    While I think this would be a really neat feature, I don't see it happening. As a previous poster stated, XI was designed so that you had to rely on grouping to accomplish anything and the trust system eased this burden as the population declined. Even should the days come that FFXIV numbers dwindle, I'd say over 80% of this game's content can be done solo, and that might be low-balling it. We also have our chocobo companion to help as we see fit. Also, there was no roulette system when I left XI and this pretty much eliminates the need for trust NPCs as far as progression goes.

    If anything, I see them working to develop our squadrons further. I was actually surprised when they lifted their previous level cap of 50, and gated some things behind squadron progression. I thought, much like the companion system, it would be abandoned. It appears they will continue to release dungeons to complete via squads, and they will eventually have to give them access to job stones if they do so. Once they do that, they should be able to release more available dungeons every patch.
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