Make relics have the same iLVL as the Raid weapons and released at the same time

[RareItems]

I think it will give everyone something to work on, and give them a reason to play a bit more .

Having the option of grinding for the Relic/Eurekan weapon released at the same time of the new Raid wing would definitely increase activity.

To balance it, Dev's can initially make the requirements for completing the Relic/Eurekan weapons Incredibly high. Like 10,000 Pagos Crystals and 250 lights. Then reduce it each patch.

[Magic-Mal]

You really are just trying to grate peoples' nerves with these topics aren't you..

[Tint]

The relic should be ilvl 395 and released together or shortly after the raids. And in the odd numbered patch it shold be upgraded to 405.

I mean you can get an ilvl 390 weapon from normal mode raid and an ilvl 400 weapon from the third savage raid turn. Granted, only one of the 8 people get the upgrade item, but a static is done in 8 weeks and has the option to get a ilvl 405 weapon in the next turn.

Why is the relic so weak in comparsion? It's just laughable!

[alimdia]

They already did that with the first Anima, the unidentifiable items step was the longest step any relic weapon had and the justification was that it had the same ilvl as gordian weapon. The community spoke against that grind, so raid weapons were bumped 5 item levels.

[number473]

It's alright. Eureka will be released in 2 months right before 4.5, and the weapon will be ilvl 385 so that it is super useful just like all the other relics this expansion.

(The reason I say 385 is because the Anemos weapon was 355, same as the Byakko weapon which was current at the time.)

[Tint]

They already did that with the first Anima, the unidentifiable items step was the longest step any relic weapon had and the justification was that it had the same ilvl as gordian weapon. The community spoke against that grind, so raid weapons were bumped 5 item levels.

When they don't want to grind then they can buy the tomestone weapon.

Also throughout ARR the relic was on raid weapon level. For example in 2.4 with the 115 relic (on previous raid weapon level), tome was 120, upgraded 130 and then there was the 135 raid weapon. Then in the next small patch the relic was upgardeable to 125 and soon after the odd numbered patch to 135.

[Arg0n]

Actually there is no Relic-weapon, just an "Eureka-weapon".

And yes, they Eureka-Weapon ist weak, it should be about ~385 same as the primal-weapon. (higher wouldn't be fair for raiders)

But raid-gear should always be the best gear, at least for ~2 months.

[Tint]

Actually there is no Relic-weapon, just an "Eureka-weapon".

And yes, they Eureka-Weapon ist weak, it should be about ~385 same as the primal-weapon. (higher wouldn't be fair for raiders)

But raid-gear should always be the best gear, at least for ~2 months.

I just want to point out again that you get a 390 tomestone weapon for basically no effort. How is that fair for people who are grinding the relic?

Yes, raid gear should be the best gear (for a while), but 385 is too weak. Why not 395? You still have the 400 and 405 weapons from raids wich are both better.

[ElazulHP]

Honestly, it doesn't even matter. Gear progression is a hamster wheel. You grind gear to get better gear to be able to grind better to get better gear and on and on and on it goes. Just give me something glowy that looks awesome and let the raiders keep the ilvl advantage so they can grind gear to get better gear to grind with. I've given up on the hamster wheel. It's pointless.

[Duskane]

The relic should be ilvl 395 and released together or shortly after the raids. And in the odd numbered patch it shold be upgraded to 405.

I mean you can get an ilvl 390 weapon from normal mode raid and an ilvl 400 weapon from the third savage raid turn. Granted, only one of the 8 people get the upgrade item, but a static is done in 8 weeks and has the option to get a ilvl 405 weapon in the next turn.

Why is the relic so weak in comparsion? It's just laughable!

they will be same as Suzaku then 4.5+ they will be i400 and i405,
I don't have a problem with them being lower ilevel they are still perfectly usable weapons.
tome weapons are a bit shifty if you don't do savage (plus theres only like 2 worth it this patch)
waiting 7 weeks for a weapon that cost 1000 tomes 3 weeks worth saving then a even longer wait to upgrade them easily with raid coin by that time the final relics will probably be out.