Things to think about before you call someone "Bad"

[HyoMinPark]

I suggest you ask this question to people who actually are trying to argue against you.

To be fair, it would help if the poster these questions were directed at would actually answer said questions. Instead, they opt to deflect and come up with more excuses to not answer the questions directed at them.

[MoroMurasaki]

To be fair, it would help if the poster these questions were directed at would actually answer said questions. Instead, they opt to deflect and come up with more excuses to not answer the questions directed at them.

I assume she hit her post limit.

Tossing around that much misinformation and coddling will catch up with you apparently.

[Penthea]

To be fair, it would help if the poster these questions were directed at would actually answer said questions. Instead, they opt to deflect and come up with more excuses to not answer the questions directed at them.

Okay but I fail to see what this has to do with me. It's not like I'm their secretary. It's not my job to answer questions on their behalf. I don't have a direct line to their brain. I saw someone misread a post and I clarified it, that's it. I said nothing about kicking, yet I became bombarded with questions that implied I was against kicking. It was a tad wtf.

But you did engage?

Please direct me to where I suggested anyone should be or should not be kicked. You'll find I said no such thing. I engaged in a part relating to when someone is told something regarding their rotation. Nothing about kicking.

If you want answers from someone who is against kicking...then find people who actually are saying that they are against it instead of flinging it at the first person who dares to quote you on anything.

[Daibunnie]

Please direct me to where I suggested anyone should be or should not be kicked. You'll find I said no such thing. I engaged in a part relating to when someone is told something regarding their rotation. Nothing about kicking.

If you want answers from someone who is against kicking...then find people who actually are saying that they are against it instead of flinging it at the first person who dares to quote you on anything.

Kicking is the result of someone refusing or unable to take the advice given to them about their rotation. No one has to mention it, but that's the easy option for dealing with players that can't adjust. You can find a dozen excuses as to why someone can't do a proper rotation, doesn't mean people are just going to accept it.

All I did was ask a couple of simple questions based on the given context that anyone can answer. I never asked you to answer my questions nor did I expect you to, but you tried to "clarify" what they posted and claim that I misunderstood them when they can easily reply to my post themselves.

Okay but I fail to see what this has to do with me. It's not like I'm their secretary. It's not my job to answer questions on their behalf. I don't have a direct line to their brain. I saw someone misread a post and I clarified it, that's it. I said nothing about kicking, yet I became bombarded with questions that implied I was against kicking. It was a tad wtf.

Seems like you're trying to be their secretary by "clarifying" on their behalf.

[Penthea]

Seems like you're trying to be their secretary by "clarifying" on their behalf.

My apologies. I didn't realise that trying to make a person understand a post properly meant that I automatically became someone's personal staff and also an avatar for all their opinions. I guess I'm due a pay cheque.

Also you're preaching to the choir. I'm not against kicking people for poor performance. I'm against being unnecessarily rude.

[Daibunnie]

My apologies. I didn't realise that trying to make a person understand a post properly meant that I automatically became someone's personal staff and also an avatar for all their opinions. I guess I'm due a pay cheque.

Then why try to clarify on their behalf as if you know their thoughts? They can easily follow up on my original post or those questions anyway, so why not just ignore my questions if you don't want to answer them instead of going on about a pointless argument.

[Penthea]

No, you aren’t their secretary. But you did enter into the conversation, so questions can be re-directed to you at that point. That is usually how discussions work.

So apparently rephrasing what someone else says means I take on a stance I made zero claim to. And it allows people to try to argue with me as if I took on that stance...even though I made absolutely no mention of it.

...okay...

Then why try to clarify on their behalf as if you know their thoughts?

Because I can read and saw you misunderstood something. Being able to interpret something differently counts as being psychic now?

[HyoMinPark]

So apparently rephrasing what someone else says means I take on a stance I made zero claim to. And it allows people to try to argue with me as if I took on that stance...even though I made absolutely no mention of it.

...okay...

Did I say any of this? I said that you entered into a discussion; that opens you up to any questions that anyone may have for you. Please don’t put words into my mouth; you advocate against being rude, but it’s rude behavior to say I said something I didn’t actually say.

You offered input into the discussion, and then were asked further questions based on your response. They don’t have to be answered with regards to what you think another person or party thinks; you can simply respond to them with your own thoughts, or not even respond at all. Instead, you sought to debate why you should be asked questions in the first place for 2 1/2 pages.

And I'm asking you why should the remaining players put up with someone who can't adapt mid-instance especially when their performance/dps is subpar. If you can't play properly while in any instance and can't change your rotation after your party had given you advice, you should get kicked.

All they were doing was literally asking you, “What do you think?” They aren’t asking you about what so-and-so other poster thought, but what you think about the situation. Is it so difficult to just answer the question, regardless if it is related to the previous discussion Daibunnie was having with another poster? It’s a question for you. Just answer it instead of arguing “why are you asking me this” after you came into a discussion unprompted.



If you don’t want questions directed towards you—any questions at all—don’t enter into a discussion. It’s simple, really.

[Daibunnie]

Because I can read and saw you misunderstood something. Being able to interpret something differently counts as being psychic now?

Except that's your own interpretation of their message and I responded to you based on those interpretations. If you don't have anything to say, then don't, instead of derailing the thread about whatever it is you're trying to argue.

[HyoMinPark]

Okay but I fail to see what this has to do with me. It's not like I'm their secretary. It's not my job to answer questions on their behalf. I don't have a direct line to their brain. I saw someone misread a post and I clarified it, that's it. I said nothing about kicking, yet I became bombarded with questions that implied I was against kicking. It was a tad wtf.

No, you aren’t their secretary. But you did enter into the conversation, so questions can be re-directed to you at that point. That is usually how discussions work.