How would an optional, official parser be toxic?

[KaldeaSahaline]

As for the topic, "how would a parser be toxic?" Before SE pushed the 'don't ask, don't tell' mentality of parsers, people were kicking under performing players for not pulling arbitrary numbers in their parties. This is probably what SE is trying to avoid, because if they make, or otherwise acknowledge, an allowance of the tool, people will be excluded for ... reasons ... on a game they pay a membership for.

That being a concern is a big nothing burger though. If they were truly concerned about exclusion they wouldn't have created DF features that allowed you to only queue with people who cleared, or PF features that let you exclude jobs or ilvl, or fight status.

The fact that they've expanded on those features over the years is proof that it's nothing but a hypocritical stance.

Giving more tools to everyone to judge others will only end up in even more toxicity. "It will happen without a parser anyway" is a wrong argument. You are saying that like if having tons of players who actually dont even know what a parser is, getting suddenly access to one isn't gonna stir up even more trouble

If you actually read those posts you'd see that the issue wasn't actually the community. It was the individual players. In fact 7 other people found the person to be toxic by measure of his gameplay. Sometimes just being catastrophically disrespectful to a teammate is more toxic than a few empty words said later.

The anti parser crowd always falls back on the argument that opening them up causes more toxicity, but can never present data to support their cause. It's simply a tool. Harassment is still policed via reports, etc. That doesn't go away or change. In fact, if you were to present me with 2 options. Kicked without any feedback (like the one poster) or kicked and told why, one gives me a chance to fix it.

You know, like the real world works? If I'm fired from a job, they tell me why. I fix it. If I get expelled from school/uni they tell me why. I fix it. If I get benched in a sports team, the coach tells me why and I practice.

I've played enough WoW over the years to see the good, the bad and the ugly with parsers. It is simply abused too often. Not always, but still too often.

Ironic - I've played WoW for 14 years at this point. I can't cite a single example of parser abuse. Wonder why.

What reason is there that everyone has to complete the tiers as fast as possible?

if you've ever pugged Savage, you'd know the answer to this. The quality of players drops dramatically as better players clear early on and exclude those who haven't cleared.