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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    The gross part about this is that the person who lost their cool and insulted the OP is reportable but doing really, really stupid and detrimental things somehow isn't.
    I believe it actually is. The Report Harassment option in-game includes harassment via gameplay means, and this would fall squarely under it. But as brought up before, it's a very gray area, because how can you prove they were doing it intentionally instead of just, well, being bad?
    Granted, if you have the proof, go for it. It's very much a reportable offense.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    I agree. This is the second time now the OP has done this and has gotten caught red-handed, yet again. Blist is probably in good order for them.
    Blist sadly won't stop people from getting queued with that person. It's a glorified chat filter.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Blist sadly won't stop people from getting queued with that person. It's a glorified chat filter.
    True, but it's good to remember their name. No way I'm condoning the message they received after they were kicked, but at the same time, being called out on your bs twice on the forums within a year establishes a pattern of wanting to play the victim. Even if it weren't true about what really happened in the duty, OP's credibility is shoddy right now. Maybe they do need to take a step back and try to play properly before trying to play the victim a third time.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    I believe it actually is. The Report Harassment option in-game includes harassment via gameplay means, and this would fall squarely under it. But as brought up before, it's a very gray area, because how can you prove they were doing it intentionally instead of just, well, being bad?
    Granted, if you have the proof, go for it. It's very much a reportable offense.
    The issue here is nothing beyond this person saying in chat that they're trolling would count as proof. SE will always err on the side of caution with something like this. The only time I've heard of any real results via Report Harrassment via gameplay has been MPKers in Eureka.

    To me both things that were done were equally wrong - it's just different kinds of trolling. Both should have the same penalty and yet one will likely never see any repercussions from their actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    True, but it's good to remember their name. No way I'm condoning the message they received after they were kicked, but at the same time, being called out on your bs twice on the forums within a year establishes a pattern of wanting to play the victim. Even if it weren't true about what really happened in the duty, OP's credibility is shoddy right now. Maybe they do need to take a step back and try to play properly before trying to play the victim a third time.
    I'm hesitant to blist people like this guy. It doesn't have a tangible benefit to me and there is then the issue of being unable to see if they're saying anything to or about you if you're partied with them again.
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    Last edited by MoroMurasaki; 09-27-2018 at 05:52 PM.

  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    To me both things that were done were equally wrong - it's just different kinds of trolling. Both should have the same penalty and yet one will likely never see any repercussions from their actions.

    I'm hesitant to blist people like this guy. It doesn't have a tangible benefit to me and there is then the issue of being unable to see if they're saying anything to or about you if you're partied with them again.
    Agreed on all fronts. Honestly the blist option in this game protects the culprits more than anything. When you report them they tell you to blist them, but if they talk trash about you again and someone reports them, "no we need the person it was directed at to report them". But they have them blisted, they can't see it! [screams into the void]
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    I'm hesitant to blist people like this guy. It doesn't have a tangible benefit to me and there is then the issue of being unable to see if they're saying anything to or about you if you're partied with them again.
    Oh right...I forget that PF doesn't really have much affect on blist. I have an alt lurking on Primal, though not on Ultros where they are at, so probably - hopefully - won't run into them and have to experience something like this first hand. Still, the player who sent that message that prompted this thread should be reprimanded in some fashion. Won't happen, as you said, and overall, it's just a crappy situation for all involved in that party.
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    Uh, someone correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you locked from kicking someone until the instance time has elapsed for at least 15 minutes? There's not a single Alphascape that should last that long in one pull, so are you sure you were kicked after only one pull?
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  7. #117
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    How do I enlarge the image from a phone? I can't see more than blurry text in the chatbox...

    That aside, I get the general gist of it being terrible. If they're going to attack you over a video game it shows that they're not worth playing with in the first place.

    Try not to let it get to you. If you want a buddy to run content with and we're on the same data center (can't see your server cuz well...phone) I'd be more than happy to tag along.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    Uh, someone correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you locked from kicking someone until the instance time has elapsed for at least 15 minutes? There's not a single Alphascape that should last that long in one pull, so are you sure you were kicked after only one pull?
    15 minutes is for vote abandon. Kicking individuals is limited by 5 minutes into the instance.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    How do I enlarge the image from a phone? I can't see more than blurry text in the chatbox...

    That aside, I get the general gist of it being terrible. If they're going to attack you over a video game it shows that they're not worth playing with in the first place.

    Try not to let it get to you. If you want a buddy to run content with and we're on the same data center (can't see your server cuz well...phone) I'd be more than happy to tag along.

    It says: << Hey OP do me a favor, go to your settings under character config>control settings and uncheck the box that says play like shit>>

    Person involved:
    Quote Originally Posted by XiShi View Post
    Got wind of this thread from a friend of a friend of a friend... lmto omg
    So let me get this straight. You said nothing about being new nor asked any questions, stole aggro from our main tank, did not hold the boss in one spot but rather moved him from one side to the other to the other to the other making us all rethink mechs on the fly which in turn was why we wiped because the aoes were just crazy, used requiescat but not holy spirit, didn't reply to any of our party chat texts asking what you were doing, annnnnnd we're the bad guys for vote dismissing you? Nah. I didn't expect my good friend to post the diddy in party chat, but there IS a check box to filter out profanities.
    We thought you joined us via DF because you purposefully wanted to ruin someone's night by tanking like a vodka soaked bumble bee. Welcome to the purpose and implementation of vote dismissal.
    Be humble. Sit down.
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    Last edited by Legion88; 09-27-2018 at 07:10 PM.

  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post

    It says: << Hey OP do me a favor, go to your settings under character config>controll settings and uncheck the box that says play like shit>>

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    Tbh I couldn't read it either, I was not prepared for such spicy bantz though. I will admit that I giggled... but then felt bad... but then remembered how the OP treated his party and was okay with the giggle.
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