What is with people?

[Zephera]

What a surprise that topic creator leaves out that he deliberately plays badly to make the people he's grouped with in DF miserable so he could paint himself the victim. Consider me shocked.

[Duskane]

Got wind of this thread from a friend of a friend of a friend... lmto omg
So let me get this straight. You said nothing about being new nor asked any questions, stole aggro from our main tank, did not hold the boss in one spot but rather moved him from one side to the other to the other to the other making us all rethink mechs on the fly which in turn was why we wiped because the aoes were just crazy, used requiescat but not holy spirit, didn't reply to any of our party chat texts asking what you were doing, annnnnnd we're the bad guys for vote dismissing you? Nah. I didn't expect my good friend to post the diddy in party chat, but there IS a check box to filter out profanities.
We thought you joined us via DF because you purposefully wanted to ruin someone's night by tanking like a vodka soaked bumble bee. Welcome to the purpose and implementation of vote dismissal.
Be humble. Sit down.

that last comment in party was unnecessary
really only reason why this thread exist
if someone is being that bad or trolling and you've tried to correct it
just kick with out the unneeded comments

[OurMom]

People like to talk about how parsers and "elitist" bring toxicity but what OP is doing is extremely toxic.

He's reporting people and possibly getting them temp bans because he's the one bad at the game and since we can't show numbers to prove the person is bad. You can possibly get temp banned for using vote kick "wrong" or banned for saying "You're bad, stop it".

These type of "safety" nets create nothing but extra problems.

[BillyKaplan]

He's reporting people and possibly getting them temp bans

I mean, if those people didn't want to get reported and possibly banned, may I suggest silently kicking the party member in question without adding what's obviously blatant harassment on top of it all? I complain and swear at bad party members until I go blue in the face, but that's to my fc mates over on discord, never in-game, never to that person's face. And that makes a world of difference.

Now here's the kick. If that guy was really that bad, and intentionally so? That's griefing and is a reportable offense in and of itself. But why try and take care of the root of the problem by reporting it when you can be a jerk about it directly, right?

These type of "safety" nets create nothing but extra problems.

If not swearing at people whose gameplay you disapprove of is a 'problem' for you, you have a whole other set of problems to deal with first before worrying about this game...

[OurMom]

I mean, if those people didn't want to get reported and possibly banned, may I suggest silently kicking the party member

That's why I mentioned possibly getting a temp ban because you used vote kick "wrong" which is a bannable offense, you're not suppose to vote kick someone cause they're bad and there's no option for that in the vote kick menu.

That's griefing and is a reportable offense in and of itself. But why try and take care of the root of the problem by reporting it when you can be a jerk about it directly, right?

Because that's really hard to prove if someone is a troll or if someone is just bad which will ultimately lead to SE not doing anything.

not swearing at people whose gameplay you disapprove of is a 'problem' for you, you have a whole other set of problems to deal with first before worrying about this game...

Do you mind if I take a look at your shoulder? I think you might have dislocated it with that reach there buddy.

"Safety nets" = Getting banned for vote kicking a bad. Not being able to use/talk about parsers. Not being able to tell someone "Hey you're doing all of this wrong".

[BillyKaplan]

That's why I mentioned possibly getting a temp ban because you used vote kick "wrong" which is a bannable offense, you're not suppose to vote kick someone cause they're bad and there's no option for that in the vote kick menu.

Gameplay differences. Seems to fly.

Because that's really hard to prove if someone is a troll or if someone is just bad which will ultimately lead to SE not doing anything.

So you swear at him, which does do something, and that's that you get reported...? Kick them and move on.

"Safety nets" = Getting banned for vote kicking a bad.

How many people do you know that had that happen to them?

Not being able to tell someone "Hey you're doing all of this wrong".

You're more than allowed to do that. You just should keep your Tourette Syndrome in check when you do.

[OurMom]

Gameplay differences. Seems to fly.

Again, there's no option when you vote kick that's for "bads" or "gameplay difference" so if the person that got kicked REALLY wanted to push it. The people that vote kicked them could get in trouble since they technically used it "wrong".

So you swear at him, which does do something, and that's that you get reported...? Kick them and move on.

Is there a reason you're stuck on swearing? I personally don't think swearing should be a bannable offense but that's not even close to what I'm talking about in any of my previous posts.

How many people do you know that had that happen to them?

Four including my self

You're more than allowed to do that.

Nope because that's being "toxic" again, why are you stuck on swearing? This entire issue is more than swearing it's about people like OP that are legitimate bads, trying to get innocent people banned because they refuse to learn how to play their class. Also I may have missed something, I didn't read this entire thread but in the screenshot did the person swear at them? Saying "you play like crap" isn't truly swearing at them. Swearing at them is saying "you are crap".

I believe the word 'shit' was used.

Yeah but that's not swearing at them that's more like comparing them to it (not trying to get banned on the forums again). Swearing at them is calling them the actual word.

[XiShi]

I believe the word 'shit' was used.

"I didn't expect my good friend to post the diddy in party chat, but there IS a check box to filter out profanities."

We vote dismissed. We did not vote collectively to insult, nor do I pay my friend's sub.
Still, even if my friend had not said what he said, we'd still be here having this conversation because ultimately Mystic's feelings were hurt by his being vote dismissed. Which, we had every right to, because we felt he was a harasser or bot by means of his erratic gameplay and not responding to our party chat text.

[MoroMurasaki]

The gross part about this is that the person who lost their cool and insulted the OP is reportable but doing really, really stupid and detrimental things somehow isn't.

In no other situation can someone walk into a group activity, perform terribly, actively disrupt and hinder the progress of their teammates and just walk away with no penalty.

I feel like the OP should be reported for his deliberate poor play. I know there are a ton of gray areas and it's a slippery slope and all that but like this guy played badly on purpose and was actively wasting 7 other players time. That isn't any more okay than saying rude stuff in PF.

[KaivaC]

The gross part about this is that the person who lost their cool and insulted the OP is reportable but doing really, really stupid and detrimental things somehow isn't.

In no other situation can someone walk into a group activity, perform terribly, actively disrupt and hinder the progress of their teammates and just walk away with no penalty.

I feel like the OP should be reported for his deliberate poor play. I know there are a ton of gray areas and it's a slippery slope and all that but like this guy played badly on purpose and was actively wasting 7 other players time. That isn't any more okay than saying rude stuff in PF.

I agree. This is the second time now the OP has done this and has gotten caught red-handed, yet again. Blist is probably in good order for them.