Escalating skill requirements & FFXIV future

[Eli85]

It may be a little harsh to say, but if player(s) find solo MSQ content insurmountable, the game is better off without them. Sure, it's one less subscription and that's bad for business, but if any one player cannot make it past a relatively low difficulty solo instance, they are only going to frustrate players in group content. To be honest, this game needs considerably less frustration in group content, which is entirely based on the lack of skill from the average pugged player.

So if anything, escalating skill requirements in the MSQ is a very good thing, if we ever make it there (which I doubt, and it's certainly not the case right now).

[Ameela]

I don't even see the point of those fights, they are just roadblocks anyways, and that particular fight was so pointless in the MSQ that I was shaking my head at it the whole time. No, we can't show you any more of the burn since we have no developers here, let's just rehash elements and mobs for a useless detour because otherwise we have barely any content in this patch. As for rotations, its kind of eh you all argue in one breath "it needs to be this way because rotations!" when the second part of the fight limits you to four buttons and won't let you play the class you started with.

Yeah because what this game's story needs is to have every single quest simply be "go here, talk to this guy and then go to another place to talk to someone else or fetch an item".
These battles are here because this is a game, it kind of needs to have gameplay to work.

Also why do you want to see more of the Burn? I'm pretty sure the dungeon already covered the most noteworthy parts of it, it's just a barren wasteland for the most part.
And the fight did serve a purpose to the story? Like, you're literally bolstering Doma's defenses so that the empire can't easily reconquer it while Hien is in Eorzea helping the Alliance... yeah it could have been more straight forward but if the devs just wanted to do storytelling in the most straight forward way possible the entire Heavensward MSQ probably wouldn't even exist.

[Fhaerron]

I don't really want to offend anybody, but...

FF XIV is one of the easier MMO's.

[Anarnee]

Dude... I did it will one of my alts healers at just barely 340. If you can't do it with BRD you must be sleeping at the keys.

[Sigma-Astra]

If I can do it on BLM, you can do it on BRD. I don't even know what else to say....

You can attack and move at the same damn time for crying out loud. What on earth are you even doing?

Did you take your own arrow to the knee or something? Did it fly out of your TV screen? The world needs to know for science purposes.

[dotsforlife]

Hate to be mean but this really just boils down to you being bad at this particular video game. FFXIV is already one of the easier more casual mmo's on the market currently. An engaging story can only keep a persons attention for so long. Challenging content needs to be there at all levels. The game is linear anyways so if you're staying at a lower skill level and never improving then it's on you. You need to learn to play whatever class it is you play and be able to look at the mechanics happening around you. If you can't do that, as it seems, then you need to find another game. That's just the reality of the situation. This doesn't fall on SE to cater to you, nor should it for the games' sake.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Hate to be mean but this really just boils down to you being bad at this particular video game. FFXIV is already one of the easier more casual mmo's on the market currently. An engaging story can only keep a persons attention for so long. Challenging content needs to be there at all levels. The game is linear anyways. You need to learn to play whatever class it is you play and be able to look at the mechanics happening around you. If you can't do that, as it seems, then you need to find another game. That's just the reality of the situation. This doesn't fall on SE to cater to you, nor should it for the games' sake.

This cannot be emphasised enough. I have many friends, acquaintances and general people I know of who have either complained or quit the game entirely because of how easy a lot of the content is. They don't raid nor do they have any interest in doing so (at least a handful), however they still want something that keeps them engaged. Stuff like Swallow's Compass or Deltascape normal generally don't accomplish that when they're so easy, people barely barely take any damage. No one is asking for everything to be Savage difficulty. People just want casual content to have teeth. It's the difference between playing a game on Normal mode instead of Very Easy. Normal isn't necessarily hard, but remains a decent enough challenge.

[Vidu]

...whenever I see a thread like this I wonder how people (like this) get past solo-games that involve any kind of combat. Do they just cheat their way through bossfights? Does every game offers a "skip this one"-option now? I've never heard of a solo-game being adjusted because people cried about it being to difficult...

And I'm saying that as someone whos mostly sticking to non-action games because I'm not that great at them.

...and as someone who had to do the Efrye-fight on the airship in FFX like 5 or 6 times because I just couldnt do it. And I know thats not action but strategy, but I looked at what I was doing, thought about what I could be doing better and finally got through it - I guess most people just dont wanna do that... probably need more games like Life is Strange - interactive movies rather than actual games.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

...whenever I see a thread like this I wonder how people (like this) get past solo-games that involve any kind of combat. Do they just cheat their way through bossfights? Does every game offers a "skip this one"-option now? I've never heard of a solo-game being adjusted because people cried about it being to difficult...

And I'm saying that as someone whos mostly sticking to non-action games because I'm not that great at them.

...and as someone who had to do the Efrye-fight on the airship in FFX like 5 or 6 times because I just couldnt do it. And I know thats not action but strategy, but I looked at what I was doing, thought about what I could be doing better and finally got through it - I guess most people just dont wanna do that... probably need more games like Life is Strange - interactive movies rather than actual games.

In a lot of cases, they either massively overlevel the content or quit. Since you brought up FFX, you can trivialize everything with some grinding, Blitzball or tossing Yuna into Auron's grid. With Aeons tied to Yuna's stats, they do absurdly high damage if she has high STR. Sadly, plenty of people like this just quit entirely because "it's too hard!!!!" It's why we keep seeing games get easier and easier.

That being said, Life is Strange is amazing. Not much in terms of gameplay, I agree, but still amazing.

[Vidu]

In a lot of cases, they either massively overlevel the content or quit. Since you brought up FFX, you can trivialize everything with some grinding, Blitzball or tossing Yuna into Auron's grid. With Aeons tied to Yuna's stats, they do absurdly high damage if she has high STR. Sadly, plenty of people like this just quit entirely because "it's too hard!!!!" It's why we keep seeing games get easier and easier.

That being said, Life is Strange is amazing. Not much in terms of gameplay, I agree, but still amazing.

I know this is totally offtopic, but I failed that fight BECAUSE you dont have Yuna there and I was used to throwing Aeons at everything - nice wake up call to finally figure out what to do with the other characters, actually! (Just how certain duties in FFXIV might be a nice wake up call to figure out what the other 90% of your buttons do...)

And yes, Life is Strange is a great game, I loved it! Picked it precisely for evenings/times when I dont want to pay an aweful lot of attention to mechanics or reaction-times. I enjoy Point-and-Click-Adventures for the same reason (and I can recommend The Book of Unwritten Tales in this context!) which is why it baffles me so much when people pick games with gameplay that they dont seem to enjoy enough to actually care about it...