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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Also keep in mind - I think it was pointed out at one point in Stormblood - that Azim and Nhaama seem parallel to to the Eorzean sun goddess Azeyma and moon goddess Nymeia.

    I'm fairly sure we're winding up to an "all the gods are false" (or enlarged legends of real people) revelation, though I really wish they weren't. I'm tired of that trope.
    Except that's not the case in either of these. Nhaama is portrayed by all the Xaela (even the Mol who are about as pacifistic as Xaela come) as being a war goddess and giving the love of battle to all her children. Nymeia meanwhile, is the Goddess of Fate and is basically the Twelves' version of the Fates/Norns/etc. If there's anyone in the Twelve Nhaama seems to be a parallel for, it's Halone maybe.

    Azim is a weird one because we already know of at least two other sun deities. Azeyma is obviously one of them, but the Meracydians who summoned Sephirot had a very similar philosophy about the sun that the Xaela do. And we know that some of Azeyma's beliefs were mixed up with those Meracydian's beliefs in Allag. Their capital did have a Sun Temple after all... so I don't think it's Azeyma that Azim parallels.

    Further increasing difference between the Twelve and Azim and Nhaama, is their roles in their respective creation myths. The Twelve are made by the Whorl and almost seem to be initially created by the world as much as they create it. After creating the world, then they leave it for the the heavens. Azim and Nhaama were never created. They're always considered to be the Sun and Moon and have always been at war with each other. It is said they came down from the sky and had mortal children to continue that war, but when their children made up, Azim and Nhaama left for the heavens again and didn't fight anymore. So you've got one pantheon where they start on the earth and then leave for the heavens and another pantheon that starts in the heavens and then comes down to earth for a little bit.

    As for "all gods are false", I don't think we're there just yet. The Kojin beast tribe quests show that the Kami are real at least. Hydaelyn and Zodiark are definetly real. In a world where faith makes things real, I question whether how real a god was to start off with really matters in the end.
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    Last edited by ObsidianFire; 09-20-2018 at 10:13 AM.