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    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Instead Square just made them laughably nerfed and expect people to watch Netflix, still requiring 7 people for no legitimate design reason, which is a categorical failure on their part to do their job: deliver something worth playing.
    (mumble) EUREKA (mutter) (grumble)

    Real talk hoping newbies quit over two dungeons is a bit over the top... there is nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy the story. I agree however that the way SE "solved" the problem basically didn't address it at all. I hate the roulette now and I don't run it, I will partially afk and read a book/play on my phone if I get them in Mentor Roulette, and I still don't understand why going in unsynched forces everyone to watch the cutscenes. (Like at least give people who want to skip them the option to do so if they're willing to set up their own group for it you know?) As many newbies are grateful, there are others who find the dungeons to be a pain and a chore because they suck and/or they don't care about the story parts. The solution is inelegant and hamfisted punishment because most players decided to flout the design intention for the path of least resistance. Hmm, reminds me of some other stubbornly anti-player design decisions they have made recently...
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    Van Arn
    World
    Goblin
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    (mumble) EUREKA (mutter) (grumble)

    Real talk hoping newbies quit over two dungeons is a bit over the top... there is nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy the story. I agree however that the way SE "solved" the problem basically didn't address it at all. I hate the roulette now and I don't run it, I will partially afk and read a book/play on my phone if I get them in Mentor Roulette, and I still don't understand why going in unsynched forces everyone to watch the cutscenes. (Like at least give people who want to skip them the option to do so if they're willing to set up their own group for it you know?) As many newbies are grateful, there are others who find the dungeons to be a pain and a chore because they suck and/or they don't care about the story parts. The solution is inelegant and hamfisted punishment because most players decided to flout the design intention for the path of least resistance. Hmm, reminds me of some other stubbornly anti-player design decisions they have made recently...
    Also Eureka. As for hoping newbies quit is perfectly fine five years in, when it's Square's design decisions that have made the situation this bad. I have nothing against the new players themselves, this is merely the consequence of SE's inaction. This whole section of the MSQ has cost so many sprouts I've watched to just give up on the game, especially when they come in from "that flashy video of the ex primal their friend showed them" so they're aware something's wrong-- they just can't be assed to do anything about it.

    As for anti-player design decisions, they'll eventually learn the player veto trumps any design shenanigans they can muster.

    Sorry, I just got a call from Diadem. I'm back now, just sent it to voicemail.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 09-18-2018 at 01:48 PM.