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  1. #101
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    Tempest222's Avatar
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    Kestrel Moon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    The tomestone reward is useless unless you literally just hit 50 on your very first job, and the exp isn’t much either, especially considering going through these dungeons feels to me like dragging 10 tons of bricks through molasses. I would rather do pretty much anything else to gain exp than potentially sit through 45 minutes of cutscenes. If I’m logged in I actually want to play the game, not watch Netflix while also remembering to check back with the game to make sure I’m not afking through the 2 minutes of actual playtime. I’m honestly surprised queues for these dungeons aren’t 1hr+, but if others are liking it it’s no skin off my back. If they did remove the mandatory cutscenes then it would just re add another quick roulette for me to do, but as is I just pretend it doesn’t exist. If they leave it this way forever it has zero effect on my enjoyment of the game.
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  2. #102
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Forced cutscenes is bad but bringing back skipping is an even worse fix. I too, was part of the group of new players who was left behind in those duties and ultimately hassled into "just skip and watch it in the inn".

    Leave it as is or make it solo. Personally, I would prefer solo.
    It is unfortunate as you still get people who grumble about the CSs and time while in the dungeons, even though they knew exactly what they signed up for. A solo instance would probably be far more enjoyable for new players.

    If the roulette is bringing new players through in a timely manner, I can't imagine SE wanting to spend the resources and time into converting those two into solo instances, but hey, ya never know! Here's to hoping I'm wrong.
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  3. #103
    Player RuleofThree's Avatar
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    Thessayn Svisast
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest222 View Post
    The tomestone reward is useless unless you literally just hit 50 on your very first job, and the exp isn’t much either, especially considering going through these dungeons feels to me like dragging 10 tons of bricks through molasses. I would rather do pretty much anything else to gain exp than potentially sit through 45 minutes of cutscenes. If I’m logged in I actually want to play the game, not watch Netflix while also remembering to check back with the game to make sure I’m not afking through the 2 minutes of actual playtime. I’m honestly surprised queues for these dungeons aren’t 1hr+, but if others are liking it it’s no skin off my back. If they did remove the mandatory cutscenes then it would just re add another quick roulette for me to do, but as is I just pretend it doesn’t exist. If they leave it this way forever it has zero effect on my enjoyment of the game.
    I love the cutscene being forced solely for the reason of up to 500 poetics as a reward. Love me some poetics.
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  4. #104
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    Hiroes Libresta
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Culfni says screw the newbies who need to get through msq, they can sit in eternal queues for all he cares because while cutscenes were optional the queues were not.

    Actually Ive been running the msq roulette once a day this week to level 50+ characters and they arent nearly as long. Sometimes 16 to 20 min waits. Happy to say its been salt free. If OP doesnt like it then he should really ignore it and do Alliance roulette instead. Theres not enough justification for them to change it
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  5. #105
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Character
    Thalia Beckford
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I love it. I run it every time I play. The 50 mendacity and poetics are great, or the xp when I run as an alt class. We laugh and joke around in party chat, or sometimes riff on the cutscenes. When someone does do the DC exploit, the rest of us just let them enjoy soloing the boss or dying while we enjoy our silliness during cutscenes. The queue is never that long at all on Aether prime time. Newbies are happy, because they aren't rushed through the story. So I have to agree with many others. If the OP doesn't like it, then just don't do the roulette. There are plenty of us who are wiling to do it still so we can keep the newbie experience going.
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  6. #106
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    hydralus's Avatar
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 50
    I still wouldn't say no to even more poetics because I am a coke addict and need me some darksteel ingots, but 500-600 for 10 minutes of playing the game and 30 of being tabbed out watching youtube is okay by me.
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  7. #107
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    Braneric Gedslas
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Every hour the team spends on fixing the MSQ dungeons is an hour NOT spent on upcoming patch content or the next expansion. If you're all OK with 5.0 being delayed 3-6 months for a MSQ fix to be developed, tested and patched speak up now.
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  8. #108
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    Nana Hya
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Thats why they pay you 300 tomestone for main scenario roulette : to make it worth your time.
    Honestly, if you just go in to rush and yell on new people for being slow or not knowing mechs, as there will always be someone like this, then dont run MSQ roulette.
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  9. #109
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    Gyson Kincaid
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Culfni says screw the newbies who need to get through msq, they can sit in eternal queues for all he cares because while cutscenes were optional the queues were not.
    Honestly, I would rather wait in an hour-long queue than wind up in a speed-run that ruins the culmination of 50 levels of story. In the 50 levels leading up to this point, this is literally the first time new players will have their experience wrecked by long-term players, and it can really sour their opinion of the game.

    I feel like people who don't understand this either don't remember what this was like, or never cared enough about the story to begin with. But some people do. Isn't there already enough instant gratification to be found elsewhere in the game?
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  10. #110
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    NyteKitsune's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Nyte Kitsune
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    As much as I hate having to watch the CS's over and over again, I understand the change to make so they couldn't be skipped. I was one of those players that got left behind watching the cutscenes as I waited 6mo. before trying ARR after it went live (Was a beta tester, which had been dreadful). Yes, many made the argument "Oh just watch it in the inn", which may be an option, shouldn't be forced onto people as the only option.

    Just grin and bear it people, after all the CS's do give you one advantage for those of us who've seen them a bazillion times, great time for a quick bathroom, snack or drink break.
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    "Nose to the wind, I go."

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