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  1. #91
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Probably going to be in a minority here...

    No I don't want the ability to skip these cutscenes again. I remember my first time doing these instances and it was awful. I had no idea people would continue on if I watched anything. All it took was one cutscene for me to be completely lost and left behind, and then have others in the group giving me hassle for supposedly leeching xp.

    For the first time last night I got to watch them in full while doing the msq on an alt and I actually enjoyed it. That being said many of the cutscenes could have been condensed or even removed, but my point is I actually got to experience the story the way it was intended, and it was really really good.

    SE should keep it as it is now or change them into solo duties. No more punishing new players for wanting to watch the story, not again please. And if you hate to watch a story you have already seen...then why are you queuing for this optional content?
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  2. #92
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    RokkuEkkusu's Avatar
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    Mikeru Takeuchi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    The MSQ roulette gives by far the best rewards of any roulette for a reason. No need to fix.
    It's debatable. It might need a little more gil earned for the daily completion bonus, and a slight increase in the adventurer in need gil bonus.

    However, I'm still satisfied with the rewards overall. The gil is still a good start for me to earn and save up on. I can also help people get through and experience the story that people who played during 2.0 are fortunate enough to watch. The tomestone rewards are nothing to sneeze at IMO.

    300 poetic tomes = more Unidentified items for the Grade 3 soils, a few extra ilevel 260 accessories for some GC seals and FC credits, gear for alt roles, etc.

    I also make use of the 100 creation and 50 mendacity to gear up my current classes.

    Also most of my expert and level 70 dungeon runs are taking 5-10 minutes longer than most CM runs with cutscenes because too many dps don't bother using AOE attacks and Zero-DPS healers are rampant lately (may be moreso with the new patch coming out.) So if I see bad runs, I could use MSQ roulette on my next dungeon queue to kill time knowing that while some stuff takes longer, it's not because of incompetence of some players after playing for a long time, but rather the unavoidable cutscenes put in place to help new players experience the story.
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  3. #93
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    hydralus's Avatar
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    I don't mind the cutscenes. Just load up something else to watch or read and wait for them to end. Mostly it just feels like getting exp for AFKing. The only beef I have is when people just go AFK for 30 minutes and leech and you can't boot them because you're in combat.

    Granted, I still think it's absurd they put literally 30 minutes of cutscenes in a dungeon at all.
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    Last edited by hydralus; 09-17-2018 at 01:06 PM.

  4. #94
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    Tlachtga Ereshkigal
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    It's a complete waste of a roulette imo. They should just delete it and make Meridianum and Praetorium a solo instance.

    The current rewards are terrible. Trash exp, poetics are useless, uncapped tomestone are useless outside of buying mats needed for crafting and the capped tomestone is 450/450 after 5 expert roulettes (which are almost guaranteed to take less time, outside of extreme cases).

    All the non-cutscene skipping did was make completing the MSQ annoying (I had a 45 minute and a 1hr 10 min wait respectively for CM and Prae on one of my alts) and make Mentor Roulette even more miserable (the penalty for leaving is guaranteed to be shorter than the instance)
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  5. #95
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Probably going to be in a minority here...

    No I don't want the ability to skip these cutscenes again. I remember my first time doing these instances and it was awful. I had no idea people would continue on if I watched anything. All it took was one cutscene for me to be completely lost and left behind, and then have others in the group giving me hassle for supposedly leeching xp.

    For the first time last night I got to watch them in full while doing the msq on an alt and I actually enjoyed it. That being said many of the cutscenes could have been condensed or even removed, but my point is I actually got to experience the story the way it was intended, and it was really really good.

    SE should keep it as it is now or change them into solo duties. No more punishing new players for wanting to watch the story, not again please. And if you hate to watch a story you have already seen...then why are you queuing for this optional content?
    Agreed. Meridianum went miserably, and my first Praetorium run involved me being left alone at the start and then immediately getting killed by the skipped adds with no way to progress.

    I wound up getting angry and contemplated unsubscribing, but some FC members took me through it.
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  6. #96
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    The roulette rewards are just not worth it
    If you are that desperate for poetics could easily unsync coils or Alex with a bonus for poetics in less time it would take to do those duties

    It might be worth it if the reward was like 5-10 cracked cluster/Crystals
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  7. #97
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    Kirsten Revenant
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlBlackX View Post
    It's really pain and rage, can't skip it.

    I don't want be boring and tire watch many same cutscenes in Duty Roulette
    So... why queue, then?

    Look, I'm in agreement that the forced cutscenes suck. I think the timing of the change was odd (why do this several months into an expansion, after the main wave of new and returning players is done?), I thought the mechanism clumsy, but it's not likely SE will reverse themselves at this point. A better request would be to go back and truly fix the system, which means stripping the cutscenes out of the dungeon in the first place (or transforming them into solo instances). That decision was astonishingly short-sighted, and the 'remedy' they've given us is a jury-rig at best. If we ask for them to fix it in a more permanent fashion - particularly those who are new players who are having to read the inevitably 'colorful' party chat as they exit each cutscene - it might have an impact. Otherwise, it's just a waste of breath, I fear.
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  8. #98
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    Luna-M's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    Just. Don't. Do. Main. Scenario. Roulette.

    I know that it's a stretch to consider it, but there's no legal or physiological obligation to do the MSQ Roulette, ever.

    If it is bothering you in Mentor Roulette then, well, you are being compensated in several ways for having Mentor status, so expect to have to do some mentoring at some point.
    That don't really fix anything though. Adding a skip cutscene block in the first place was a bad idea.
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  9. #99
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlachtga View Post
    It's a complete waste of a roulette imo. They should just delete it and make Meridianum and Praetorium a solo instance.

    The current rewards are terrible. Trash exp, poetics are useless, uncapped tomestone are useless outside of buying mats needed for crafting and the capped tomestone is 450/450 after 5 expert roulettes (which are almost guaranteed to take less time, outside of extreme cases).

    All the non-cutscene skipping did was make completing the MSQ annoying (I had a 45 minute and a 1hr 10 min wait respectively for CM and Prae on one of my alts) and make Mentor Roulette even more miserable (the penalty for leaving is guaranteed to be shorter than the instance)
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    The roulette rewards are just not worth it
    If you are that desperate for poetics could easily unsync coils or Alex with a bonus for poetics in less time it would take to do those duties

    It might be worth it if the reward was like 5-10 cracked cluster/Crystals

    The roulette serves its purpose by luring players to run the extremely ancient MSQ dungeons. The reward may not be worth it for you personally, but for those who still join up, they're obviously finding some worth to it.

    I don't personally tend to run it too often, but sometimes I just want a slow, mindless run to get some extra XP or mendacity tomes. I also like being able to actually talk to people in dungeons, so that's made them more enjoyable when I do sign-up.

    There are obviously better ways to get a higher XP/Tomes count per minute spent, and so if that's what you aim for, MSQ roulette is probably not for you. However, not everyone is trying to min/max their time, and sometimes it's just more enjoyable to take the slower path for whatever reason.
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  10. #100
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Forced cutscenes is bad but bringing back skipping is an even worse fix. I too, was part of the group of new players who was left behind in those duties and ultimately hassled into "just skip and watch it in the inn".

    Leave it as is or make it solo. Personally, I would prefer solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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