Seriously, If You're Only Going To Create Designs For Women, Just Genderlock

[Vidu]

...you know whats funny about the Ao Dai? I noticed the other day that it IS different between male and female characters - they have a different pattern on the front and personally I like the one the guys got better to be honest.

In regards to your whole topic... I can see where you're coming from and I wouldnt mind seeing more "manly" fashion for the guys, but I also feel you're a bit unfair and are only cherry-picking the pieces that fit your narrative.

For starters: We have very neutral gear in the game aswell - I'm looking at that leather jacket und several parts of gear spring into my mind that would sorta match it. We dont need to pretend that you cant achieve a "manly" look in the game.
Talking about that jacket: One thing that comes to mind is actually the Leonhart-jacket we got... which then reminds me that we got 4 glamour-sets from previous FF-characters. All male, but labeld unisex. I'm not complaining about this, but I'd like to point out to you that we got Squalls outfit, but not Rinoas dress. That we have Firions armor (however frilly and feminine it might be), but not Marias. That we can dress up like Cloud, but didnt get Aerith or Tidas outfit. That Zidanes clothes are in the game, but not Garnets, Eikos or Freyas (...and neither of those girls is even wearing extremly girly clothes, not counting Garnets queen-dress).

It stinks when guys dont get their fair cut of glamour and I'm very, very much for unlocking every glamouritem for both genders.
But I dont see any reason to pretend that there isnt any "manly" fashion in the game.


...and there is quite a bit of unisex gear that looks good on both sexes - and probably quite a lot that people prefer on guys.
Colour and combination are playing an important role here aswell - you're showing that spring-set from the GS-glamour and I dont see how the shirt (the shorts change anyways for the guys) cant be worn with something that will make it look more like a "mens shirt".
You really put effort into showing and underlining how femine something like a simple sweater can look like... I never actually considered that to be extremly femine? It doesnt has a cut that I would associate with "female clothes", like for exmaple a deep V-neckline.

[Rokke]

With the exception of the Ao Dai and the Coachella girl top (which really the only change it needs is for guys to be bare chested under the shawl)..most of these examples are unisex?

What's the big deal? The big deal is the equivalent of what's in the game: On my server, the quaintrelle dress sells for 1.5m at its lowest (at the time I'm making this post). The boulevard sells for almost 300k.

I'd wager the main reason its so lopsided because the boulevard set is a hot mess lol

[Tsumdere]

Google "Women's Sweaters"

Bonus :

Looks quite similar to Ala Mhigan top, but with no fringe because fringe hasn't been in style for a while.




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I think you have the right idea, I just think you have chosen the absolute worst examples of it because these are gender neutral (not Ao Dai tho. That is a good example). Better examples would be how absolutely terrible the Boulevard set is compared to Quaintrelle or the mass amounts of tome/dungeon gear that are literal dresses. Or females getting well modeled gear NPC gear in the Mogstation (i.e. Lyse/Blackbosom) while males get a torn up Manderville suit and Hien's pixelated mess. Also never forget how awful caster and healer gear is for males.

On my server, the quaintrelle dress sells for 1.5m at its lowest (at the time I'm making this post). The boulevard sells for almost 300k.

Female fashions sells better.

An aside, but there is multiple reasons for the lower price - the boulevard material being easier to obtain than the quaintrelle as well as boulevard being an absolute hot mess in comparison.

[Magic-Mal]

Why don't you have any examples of the male gear in the game that is definitely male fashion tho? Like that overcoat you get fro completing Heavensward, or the gamblers coat, or any of those pieces?

And I've seen sweaters that look just like that for males. In fact I see more male characters using the winter sweater than female...

It seems like you just picked the most feminine unisex outfits to try to make a point.

I didn't say they didn't exist. I said they were very lacking. All of the outfits listed above are all from SB alone. Which is why I picked them. Because we're in SB.

[Penthea]

Google "Women's Sweaters" then Google "Men's Sweaters". Try to find a diamond pattern sweater for men

There are irish woolen sweaters called aran jumpers and they look like this:



Oh look it's that diamond pattern that you somehow think is exclusive to women's fashion.

[BillyKaplan]

Like that overcoat you get fro completing Heavensward, or the gamblers coat, or any of those pieces?

The gambler's coat can't be used as an argument because it was originally designed as male-gender-locked, but was made unisex due to popular demand. Agree or disagree with OP, all these other pieces were made from the get-go as gender unlocked.

[Fredco191]

I actually like the new coat. I’m glad I’m saving my gil already.

[Magic-Mal]

Men's sweaters

Men's sweaters and women's sweaters aren't exactly the same. Not only do your examples lack the diamond pattern, they are also all form-fitting to the wearer's, that's actually a design aspect for male sweaters.(I was never looking for specific sweaters. Just men's and women's sweaters) They are generally snugger. Women's sweaters are much more room despite being the correct size with relation to the wearer. And they do have the diamond pattern. In fact, my store is selling them for fall and winter right now:





That's not to say women also don't have tight sweaters since women have broader fashion.

[Penthea]

Men's sweaters and women's sweaters aren't exactly the same. Not only do your examples lack the diamond pattern

Might want to scroll up then because I linked some that do. It's a very common design in aran jumpers.

[Magic-Mal]

Might want to scroll up then because I linked some that do. It's a very common design in aran jumpers.

The only one of the group I posted that was an Aran Jumper was the last one. The other sweaters aren't even Aran Jumpers.

But have you googled "Men's Sweaters" though? Not a specific sweater. Just sweater. You don't get Aran Jumpers. Men wear Aran Jumpers? Fine. But that's not the average sweater you see in a store, like uggs.