Seriously, If You're Only Going To Create Designs For Women, Just Genderlock

[Penthea]

The only one of the group I posted that was an Aran Jumper was the last one. The other sweaters aren't even Aran Jumpers.

But have you googled "Men's Sweaters" though? Not a specific sweater. Just sweater. You don't get Aran Jumpers. Men wear Aran Jumpers? Fine. But that's not the average sweater you see in a store, like uggs.

Why do we have to google men's sweaters? Are you somehow unable to consider that SE may have actually deliberately put in an aran jumper? It looks exactly like one. Even the scarf and the pin is within the style for that type of clothing.

But that's not the average sweater you see in a store

Neither is 99% of gear in the game. I wish I could find the wind-silk coatee in a store.

[Magic-Mal]

Why do we have to google men's sweaters? Are you somehow unable to consider that SE may have actually deliberately put in an aran jumper? It looks exactly like one. Even the scarf and the pin is within the style for that type of clothing.



Neither is 99% of gear in the game. I wish I could find the wind-silk coatee in a store.

Okay SE deliberately put in an Aran Sweater. Take the win. That doesn't change the fact that we have, a bunch of different kinds of glasses, the Spring dress set, the bridesmaids dress set, the new spring set, Aran Jumpers/basic diamond pattern winter sweater, knotted shirts(oh we got bunches of those over here), short leather jackets, long fur coats, long cloth coats, and soon uggs. Literally uggs(my store sells plenty of those for women, girls, toddler girls, and baby girls, none for males). All those things I listed I could go buy myself at the mall. In a single store.

[Sigma-Astra]

I wear khakis and polo shirts.

....Are you Jake from State Farm?

[Penthea]

All those things I listed I could go buy myself at the mall.

...are you complaining that you can buy these in real life? I thought your issue was that many designs were targeted at female characters, not that you can purchase similar in real life.

[Iscah]

The Ala Mhigan gown and Ao Dai are the only feminine-not-unisex examples from your original post, in my opinion. (But how much variation is there in real Ao Dai designs? Just because you’ve shown one image doesn’t demonstrate that they never look like that. A picture comparing male and female versions would be helpful.)

The coat and boots look fine to me. Shorts won’t work for everyone but you can always substitute them for something else.

I think the spring shirt looks nicer on my male Elezen than either of my female characters. I think it drapes more nicely. Also the matching shorts turn into long pants on men. (There was a whole thread about it at the time - mostly of people saying they wanted the shorts too.)

I’m not sure about the plain sweater, but I know the version with the scarf is actually a different default colour depending on gender. The female one is pink and the male one is.... olive green, I think? Very different anyway, and I’ve never thought it looked odd on male characters.

And the boulevardier set... well, I started the discussion topic on that one. It’s definitely a weird design overall but the shirt is nice. I hadn’t realised the materials were easier to get though - that does explain the price difference. Plus even if there were equal amounts available, the fabric for the female version would be going into making both the dress and the skirt, but I expect not so many people are bothering with the male shorts.

[Magic-Mal]

...are you complaining that you can buy these in real life? I thought your issue was that many designs were targeted at female characters, not that you can purchase similar in real life.

No no I was countering what you said with the fact that alot of glamours can be bought in a RL mall(women's section). That was my point of the OP, that male character lack those simple things like a polo or a dress shirt that lots of guys wear.

[HyoMinPark]

Google "Women's Sweaters" then Google "Men's Sweaters". Try to find a diamond pattern sweater for men

Are you kidding? The winter sweater is extremely gender neutral. You can maybe have an argument for the one with the scarf (the Adventurer’s Sweater), but the plain winter sweater is gender neutral. I see plenty of men walking around in sweaters around where I live.

I feel like you're making a mountain out of a mole hill with this thread, honestly. There are few that are feminine, but some of your examples don’t strike me as feminine clothing items (and I’m a female).

[Skivvy]

First off, let me apologize that these pictures are so small. Could only do the preview option on my guy.






Out of the market board glams, these are probably the worst offenders as far as coming off rather feminine. The sweater isn't really that bad, but including it as it's been talked about quite a bit up above :P

I think the bigger issue I have with SE and their designs is that it all just comes off as lazy to me. I've played games that have fantastic versions of an item for both males and females. The gear looks like it was actually designed for each gender, and it's customized to fit their bodies. With the items posted, it seems that they designed them more with females in mind, and then did minimal tweaks, if any, to hand over to the guys. Bunny suit is a nice example of this as well.

[Sigma-Astra]

I honestly don't get the problem, but maybe because in this day and age....I've had to spend money on black pants meant for guys with deeper pockets in them because the black pants they make for women suck and apparently, we're not allowed to have deep pockets!

Men have weird sizing for their pants though, I mean, I get why and all...but it's just weird...lol.

[Magic-Mal]

The Ala Mhigan gown and Ao Dai are the only feminine-not-unisex examples from your original post, in my opinion. (But how much variation is there in real Ao Dai designs? Just because you’ve shown one image doesn’t demonstrate that they never look like that. A picture comparing male and female versions would be helpful.)

Sure thing!