Seriously, If You're Only Going To Create Designs For Women, Just Genderlock

[alimdia]

The regular sweater is definitely unisex, the one with the scarf leans more towards the feminine side, so overall I agree with these

First off, let me apologize that these pictures are so small. Could only do the preview option on my guy.

So the main difference seems to be the length and fittedness? The man in the second picture doesn’t look too far off the game design to me, other than the fantail back added to both gender designs.

"Fittedness" is a big factor on how feminine it looks.

[Magic-Mal]

To those who don't want to Google "Men's Sweaters". I get these results:

[BillyKaplan]

Damn you, Mal, now I want those sweaters and I can't have them ;-;

[HyoMinPark]

To those who don't want to Google "Men's Sweaters". I get these results:

I guess you missed this one:

The Winter Sweater (the one without the scarf) is NOT feminine in design. You’re reaching with that example.

[BillyKaplan]

The Winter Sweater (the one without the scarf) is NOT feminine in design. You’re reaching with that example.

Are they? I feel like sweaters became a sort of strawman for this thread. Let's go after the one example that even OP agreed wasn't so clear cut, so we can feel like we won. But not feminine is still a far cry from masculine.
Now, if we had only the sweaters to go with, yes, this would've been too much. But it's not. We have repeated instances where the designs do obviously skew towards the feminine variations despite there existing male counterparts for some of those outfits, like the Ao Dai. And when I think of 'guys in sweaters', the examples people bring here to counter usually go along with some gag about a guy forced to wear a sweater like that because "my nana knit it" or something. What comes to mind is more what Mal linked, which proves that there are more masculine variations to sweaters. So when you take the fact SE could've gone with something else, but didn't, and you add it up with other examples where they outright neglected the masculine versions of the outfit, it actually adds up nicely.

[Theodric]

I'd definitely like to see more masculine designs for 'casual' glamour gear. There seems to be a feminine or androgynous slant to a great many casual sets these days. The same can be said of hairstyles...and we're getting less of them over time, too.

I'm also not really liking the 'modern real world' aesthetic being embraced for a lot of the newer glamour options...especially when we're still waiting on some of the cool looking glamour used by decorative civilian NPC's.

[Magic-Mal]

I guess you missed this one:



The Winter Sweater (the one without the scarf) is NOT feminine in design. You’re reaching with that example.

I didn't miss one. It wasn't there.

[RiyahArp]

The sweater can be masculine, if we are talking about JP fashion. There's a movement called "Mori," which emphasizes layering, earth tones, and understated fashion. Mori girl and Mori boy. Mori means "forest."

A good blog post defining Mori boy style.

I think jp fashion has a heavier element on costuming than western stuff, and it borrows a lot from foreign trends as much as they innovate themselves. Here is a lovely slideshow by google arts and culture showing some of the trends.. This isn't as much of an issue in the west; i mean, stuff like classic punk is close to it, but I don't think it's as much of a force now.

I do think Magic Mal has a point. Unisex is ok, but they do need more masculine unisex options as well.

[Skivvy]

I guess you missed this one:

The Winter Sweater (the one without the scarf) is NOT feminine in design. You’re reaching with that example.

Just for fun, I asked my husband if he would wear a sweater like that. After a rather long pause, he responded that it looks like something his Grandma would make, and that he'd wear it only because he loves her. :P He doesn't play this game so he had no idea why I was asking him. Now obviously he is not the final voice when it comes to men's fashion, but I have an inkling that may be a fairly common sentiment when faced with that particular sweater. He did like the ones that Mal posted up above.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Just for fun, I asked my husband if he would wear a sweater like that. After a rather long pause, he responded that it looks like something his Grandma would make, and that he'd wear it only because he loves her. :P He doesn't play this game so he had no idea why I was asking him. Now obviously he is not the final voice when it comes to men's fashion, but I have an inkling that may be a fairly common sentiment when faced with that particular sweater. He did like the ones that Mal posted up above.

I prefer looser fitting clothes to tight fitting ones lol.

I'd avoid Mals "mens sweaters" like the plague.