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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    After some digging, the only thing I found was this update on November 24, 2015: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...20#post3449020
    The note on droprate changes seems very vague (which isn't rare for SE to do), so it's hard to tell if they did adjust the droprate of NMs and "certain monsters", or if they simply haven't adjusted droprate
    Yeah, that is too vague to use to blame raiders for like some others in this thread are doing.

    Going by the quote from that section:
    "The following adjustments have been made to “The Diadem” as a result of balance changes to the Duty Finder:"

    Maybe SE was concerned about the wait times for dungeons and void ark in DF. Diadem gear basically removed any need to run void ark (even though it was released at the same time as Diadem, Diadem basically made void ark dead on release) or experts anymore. My boyfriend and I played during this time and we recall really bad DF wait times on experts when Diadem came out.

    Just speculation though, because this header doesn't really make sense for them just nerfing it to nerf it, although it might just be a way to hide true intentions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    I just remember that Diadem died pretty fast after that, with a lot of complaints being about the lower amount of i210 gear dropping.
    If I was to make an educated guess, that change might have been to stop everyone camping Dino Island and no where else. Like an entire zone and all anyone did was go to Dino Island. If that were the case then it was not raider complaints that did it, simply that SE likely wanted people to actually do things in other areas.

    But that is just a guess, the information is too vague. Also the players might have perceived less i210 gear when it might have not been the case. Simply not enough data to go on and no way to test it since Diadem 1.0 is gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    They're obviously not going to state that they nerfed something because of x group complaining about y feature, because it's not a professional thing to do. And you're right, ultimately it's SE's decision, but it's a decision based on what they think is best for the playerbase. That decision just happened to line up with the complaints coming from raiders.
    Of course it is unprofessional, and of course they wouldn't do that. My point in saying that was simply that there is no proof to generalize all raiders and blame us all for Diadem.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    I've been a raider for most of my playtime in XIV, except during Midas. It's kinda difficult to have a grudge against myself.
    Wasn't saying you had a grudge. My initial response was to someone else and is due to some other posters in this thread using Diadem to hold a grudge and blame raiders for it. You just replied to me about it so I am explaining my logic, it was not an accusation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Except the i280 weapon was so rare, that it might've not even existed at all. If they had actually doubled down on it, they'd have done so with a guaranteed emergency mission with every Diadem map, along with multiple weapons as reward from finishing it.
    Still doesn't prove that SE did any of this due to raiders. They can have their own reasons for doing things after all, and it may be because they noticed balance was being thrown off making content dead too soon (you have to remember that i280 weapon also invalidated the relic, not just the savage weapon, so raid gear is not the only thing on the table here).

    The gear in this game already gets worthless quite quickly, all of it only lasts 6 months already, dropping Diadem at the 3 month mark in a tier making a lot of other gear and content options almost worthless immediately might not have been their intention.

    The idea that Diadem and Void Ark were released in the same patch and one drops i200 gear and the other drops i210 shows there maaay have been an oversight. Just my own speculations, but there is still the general idea that there were many other reasons SE could have done whatever they did.
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