Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
I can't find any proof of this. Can you give me the source from SE showing they nerfed it? Because I can't find anything that shows they nerfed it anywhere, be it drop rate or item level.
After some digging, the only thing I found was this update on November 24, 2015: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...20#post3449020
The note on droprate changes seems very vague (which isn't rare for SE to do), so it's hard to tell if they did adjust the droprate of NMs and "certain monsters", or if they simply haven't adjusted droprate

I just remember that Diadem died pretty fast after that, with a lot of complaints being about the lower amount of i210 gear dropping.

Quote Originally Posted by Miste
Even if Diadem was nerfed in some way, unless you can find some statement from SE saying they nerfed Diadem solely because of raider complaints and that all the stuff about diadem was nerfed or changed due to raider complaints then you still have no argument to stand on to be mad at/blame raiders for it.

In the end all decisions are SE's choices. They choose what to do and what complaints or requests to listen to. It is all their final decision, if you want to put blame then it should be on them for choosing to listen to those complaints. Or they might have even had an entirely different reason for doing something and you are just assuming.
They're obviously not going to state that they nerfed something because of x group complaining about y feature, because it's not a professional thing to do. And you're right, ultimately it's SE's decision, but it's a decision based on what they think is best for the playerbase. That decision just happened to line up with the complaints coming from raiders.

Quote Originally Posted by Miste
Like even if any of that is true, it happened in 3.1, like that is a ridiculously long time to be holding a grudge against raiders for. Not to mention many of the raiders who complained might not even play the game anymore and the ones you are blaming now had nothing to do with what did or did not happen to Diadem.
I've been a raider for most of my playtime in XIV, except during Midas. It's kinda difficult to have a grudge against myself.

Quote Originally Posted by Miste
You are taking it out of context. I didn't say it doesn't make sense for getting people to do the content. I said it doesn't make sense that IF SE was listening to raider complaints that they would just do the same thing the raiders complained about for a second time and even double down by making it higher item level than savage instead of just the same item level.
Except the i280 weapon was so rare, that it might've not even existed at all. If they had actually doubled down on it, they'd have done so with a guaranteed emergency mission with every Diadem map, along with multiple weapons as reward from finishing it.