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  1. #11
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    TheGrimace's Avatar
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 100
    SE needs to at least explain their most efficient method of light farming they have hinted at in the past. There's nothing that points to this best method that we know of, and having that information could change things.

    That requires them to own up that it was a dumb idea to hide this info, though.
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  2. #12
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    Pastahnak Popotonak
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    Fisher Lv 80
    I'm a fan of eureka (Working on 3rd weapon), but there needs to be a lot of things added if they want the mass majority to continue on. They need to remove the train and add in things to do outside of killing mobs and NMs. Need more dynamic fates like seiges, camp take overs, escorts. More group oriented content like Leve quests and smaller party locked NMs, Make mobs use mechanics and abilities sooner, make people actually have to move, improve on bunnies, and most importantly anything that's required for the relic make it a reward in everything they add.

    My biggest concern with eureka is they'll add one shallow piece of content (Bunny fates) and then revert the content back to favor the train mentally.
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  3. #13
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    Irishfae's Avatar
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    Kalandra Scathgealach
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality View Post
    I'm considering dropping more than just pagos like a hot popoto LOL if this is how it's gonna be from here on and the content of 4.4 doesn't get my interest back (cause pagos really burned my interest quite a bit) I'll most likely end up dropping the game as much as I like it..the content being like this is just off putting.
    I actually had similar thoughts. Fortunately, or unfortunately, no other game holds my attention like this one, even in lulls. I just want it to be better.
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  4. #14
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pastahnak View Post
    I'm a fan of eureka (Working on 3rd weapon), but there needs to be a lot of things added if they want the mass majority to continue on. They need to remove the train and add in things to do outside of killing mobs and NMs. Need more dynamic fates like seiges, camp take overs, escorts. More group oriented content like Leve quests and smaller party locked NMs, Make mobs use mechanics and abilities sooner, make people actually have to move, improve on bunnies, and most importantly anything that's required for the relic make it a reward in everything they add.

    My biggest concern with eureka is they'll add one shallow piece of content (Bunny fates) and then revert the content back to favor the train mentally.
    I'm not sure why people are so against the train. It was fun and social. Far more social than Pagos has been. Everyone in Pagos is just bitter and miserable. Anemos is still pretty fun (at least the instances I've been in). /shrug I know to each their own, but Pagos is nothing but a failure in my mind. (Cheers, btw on the 2 relics :-) )

    I wouldn't be against something more dynamic. Perhaps objectives like the other relics had in the 'outside' world would help.
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  5. #15
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I think the issue people have with the train is that you have a large number of people AFKing nearby or in town, only for them to become active after a small number of people kill the requisite adds for a NM to spawn.

    I'd rather have that, though, than an experience where everyone is isolated into little groups and it takes two hours before an NM shows up. The past few days, I've had to spawn Louhi with small amounts of people and the only issue I had was that Level 35 people kept leaving to do low level NMs like Snow Queen, causing us to need an extra night for preparation.
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  6. #16
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    Kalandra Scathgealach
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraAdalena View Post
    I feel like the one part nobody is talking about is that the story isn't even worth it. ARR at least had Gerolt, who is an amazing character. And HW had his interactions with you and another person, and also a lot more humorous and fun because it feels like you're developing a living being.

    Eureka? It's just a retelling of certain parts of FFV. And FFV is far more fun than this, so I'd rather not play it and just go play FFV... which is what I've been doing. So what I'm saying is, it's disappointing... because instead of wanting me to play further into FFXIV and Eureka as a whole, it makes me want to play V more than the game itself... isn't that the opposite of what content in an MMO supposed to do?.
    Yes, Exactly! A bunch of us were really disappointed with the whole quest line and at 35 we were like, 'did anything actually happen.'
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Weekly log for pagos should be changed to give out frosted crystals once your level 35. Light need to be really buffed or lower amount frosted crystals you need for each weapon.
    Yes! It would keep the challenge log as something viable to do, because as of right now, no one at 35 is going to touch it.
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  8. #18
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishfae View Post
    Yes, Exactly! A bunch of us were really disappointed with the whole quest line and at 35 we were like, 'did anything actually happen.'
    Literally nothing happened in Pagos. The sole revelation is that the vague thing Anemos mentioned that Galuf sealed was revealed to be a Primal. Aside from that, the most plot relevant scene was Ejika stating he was jealous of Krile and the WoL.

    The next patch trailer showing
    Ejika with Zantetsuken
    makes me think the developers want me to believe something is going to happen next time, but after two instances of fluff, I'm beginning to become skeptical.
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    Last edited by Berteaux_Braumegain; 09-07-2018 at 09:36 AM.

  9. #19
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    It would be a shame if they tried to do something interesting in the next Eureka zone, because they failed to do anything interesting in the first two and turned a ton of people off of the content.
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  10. #20
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    Athena Nightreaper
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishfae View Post
    I actually had similar thoughts. Fortunately, or unfortunately, no other game holds my attention like this one, even in lulls. I just want it to be better.

    yeah like. I don't wanna unsub, but the content is just gonna be lame if it stays like this..I'm hoping 4.4 keeps me interested cause pagos sure hasn't.
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