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  1. #1
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    Irishfae's Avatar
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    Kalandra Scathgealach
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 100

    Another Pagos Feedback Post

    So at the risk of getting bullied for 'complaining' I'm going to offer the feedback someone who works a full time job, has a family and has been playing since 1.0.

    First and foremost, because this is what some LOVE to hassle people about, I'm not opposed to the grind. I've completed multiple relics in ARR and HW and spent hours in Anemos actually having fun and I'm 4 lvls short of having my main at 70 on everything. I don't expect anything to be handed to me. Period, end of story.

    I don't mind working for things. I enjoy the challenge, what I don't like is what Pagos has done to me. I HATE it with a fiery passion; to the point that I've just given up at lvl 35 with 2 Louhi ices, 11 frosted and 488 Pagos crystals.
    The thought of going back knowing that I'll spend 3 hours killing the same mob over and over and over again while seeing maybe 5 Fates, is disheartening. (yes, this is after the supposed NM 'nerf')

    And on top of that the idea of getting more than one relic is out of the question. (Here's where I'm going to be told to do Savage content - and here is where I say that I do and it isn't really about the ilvl of the weapon, but rather the fact that I got a cool shiny new sword)

    I would assume that the idea for the low drop rate of EVERYTHING is that this is only for the weapons and to keep people busy between content lulls, but this isn't fun. This is another job and not a fun one. This is that soul stealing job you've been looking to leave forever and just can't seem to find a new one.

    If this is supposed to be the 'alternative' method for getting higher level weapons for people not wanting or able to do Savage (some people can't fit raids into their schedules), then Pagos really isn't going to fit well with them. One of my FC people said that if you straight up did nothing but grind light, you could get 1 to 2 frosteds and hour, best you can hope for it is 15.5 hours. More than likely you are looking at something more in like with 29-30 hours. This is a job.
    • Light needs to be seriously rethought. I just reached 35 and have 11. We should at least have enough for 1 relic by the time we hit 35. I would be far less disheartened if I wasn't looking at another grind on top of the grind to 35.
    • Louhi Ice - why 5 and have him drop 2??? This makes no sense, what are people supposed to do with that extra ice? Get another relic? ((see comment about light))

    I want to fuss about Pagos crystals, but really, by the time I manage to amass enough light for one weapon, I'll have enough crystals.


    ((oh, and I could deal without the one way cliffs in the new Eureka, even at 35 they are torture))
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  2. #2
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    Vyncent Nolan
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Irishfae View Post
    Light needs to be seriously rethought. I just reached 35 and have 11. We should at least have enough for 1 relic by the time we hit 35. I would be far less disheartened if I wasn't looking at another grind on top of the grind to 35.
    That's because you used NMs to level instead of chaining. Those that chained had about enough frosted crystals as they reached lvl 35.
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    Last edited by Vnolan; 09-06-2018 at 11:31 AM.

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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I did nothing but chaining and when got to level 35 still lacked 11 frosted crystals and 100 pagos crystals to get my first weapon. Weekly log for pagos should be changed to give out frosted crystals once your level 35. Light need to be really buffed or lower amount frosted crystals you need for each weapon.
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  4. #4
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I still need 13 more frosted crystals and another Louhi ice. Not sure I even want to bother; my main goal at this point is getting Louhi's card and then dropping Pagos like a hot popoto.
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    Antonio_Xul's Avatar
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Zalera
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    I went in today and it was dead as disco! Not even 10 people in the instance. Went in multiple times and the same handful was there.
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    LauraAdalena's Avatar
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    Carby Adalena
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I feel like the one part nobody is talking about is that the story isn't even worth it. ARR at least had Gerolt, who is an amazing character. And HW had his interactions with you and another person, and also a lot more humorous and fun because it feels like you're developing a living being.

    Eureka? It's just a retelling of certain parts of FFV. And FFV is far more fun than this, so I'd rather not play it and just go play FFV... which is what I've been doing. So what I'm saying is, it's disappointing... because instead of wanting me to play further into FFXIV and Eureka as a whole, it makes me want to play V more than the game itself... isn't that the opposite of what content in an MMO supposed to do?

    Guess that's just me. I haven't stepped into the place getting close to 32. I don't plan on finishing leveling up, or a weapon... let alone step into the next place they have coming out next.

    EDIT: THIS IS COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO FINISHED EVERY WEAPON AND ARMOR PIECE OF ANEMOS, HAS 4 HW ANIMAS AT THE FINAL STEP, AND I'M GOING BACK TO THE ARR STEP BECAUSE I WANT GLAMOR. And I especially want Gae Bolg, that dragoon spear is one of my favorites. What I'm saying is, I'd much rather do books than Pagos.
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    Last edited by LauraAdalena; 09-06-2018 at 03:00 PM.

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    UnstablePersonality's Avatar
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    Athena Nightreaper
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    I still need 13 more frosted crystals and another Louhi ice. Not sure I even want to bother; my main goal at this point is getting Louhi's card and then dropping Pagos like a hot popoto.
    I'm considering dropping more than just pagos like a hot popoto LOL if this is how it's gonna be from here on and the content of 4.4 doesn't get my interest back (cause pagos really burned my interest quite a bit) I'll most likely end up dropping the game as much as I like it..the content being like this is just off putting.
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    ElazulHP's Avatar
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    Inigo Meowtoya
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    Yes, the light step really needs a hit from the nerf bat hard. Got my one relic and i'm done until it's nerfed into oblivion.
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  9. #9
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    That's because you used NMs to level instead of chaining. Those that chained had about enough frosted crystals as they reached lvl 35.
    That's not factual. I did a lot of chaining before the NM EXP was tripled, and I didn't get a single thing from any of that. I'm level 35 and I just hit 400 snowflakes and I'm at 10 1/2 cheez-its
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  10. #10
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    Kalandra Scathgealach
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    That's because you used NMs to level instead of chaining. Those that chained had about enough frosted crystals as they reached lvl 35.
    Nope, I did the vast majority of my leveling on chaining, 2.5 challenge logs and some NMs.
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