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  1. #61
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by vVAstrAVv View Post
    Im not underestimating im just saying its not an inherent factor in the job as were discussing it

    And ive maxed rdm
    Its procs are litterally oh i have x or y ill use it instead of a
    Oh i have to use a once but thatll proc z for next time around
    Really simple

    Even if we were to factor buff alligning any difficulty there can be stripped out with a freaking vc on discord
    X or Z. Impact has 7 seconds left but both X and Z are up. Use impact to save the proc or ignore it and keep the X and Z going?

    Almost capped out on mana. Burn some with a quick E. Riposte and save the burst for a safer time, or gamble with it and try to get the whole combo in? Maybe use an E. Riposte to shift your GCD just enough to be able to make some slidecasts and double weaves you otherwise wouldn't be able to.

    What spells will most efficiently get me to 80/80+? Am I able to save up to get a double verfinisher under one embolden without overcapping? Every lost mana is lost damage. Every lost second casting is absolutely 0 DPS, RDM suffers the ABC rule more than any other caster in this game. Aside from 0 DPS when not casting, RDM's resources can only be generated by GCDs. So you want the fastest mana generation possible, but want to avoid overcapping, which can be difficult because the only way to burn excess resource is in melee range.

    Need to optimize Displacement. Is it safe to do now, or is healing too heavily required so displacement can't be used? Is there not enough room in here? Do I have time to fit a Displace and a CaC in before using Manafication?

    There are checkpoints in fights where I need to be at specific mana, and I need to act differently depending on what level of mana I'm at. End of Ifrit Ulti, I'm at a very different point in my rotation if I'm at 80/80 and if I'm at 100/100. This can heavily shape my next 8 GCDs in Titan Ulti because of how cutthroat he is for every cast.

    Make sure you cure proc every time the boss jumps so you can hit him with a free Aero or Thunder when he drops back.

    Is it the most complex? No. Is it the most punishing? No (although it's not like RDM can just "get back up" after death like some pretend; losing a finisher or worse, a double finisher's worth of mana due to death is crippling in its own way.) But let's not pretend the job has no nuances whatsoever.
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    Last edited by Dualgunner; 09-04-2018 at 04:51 PM.

  2. #62
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by chidarake View Post
    blm has recieved a lot of love from the devs and they have listened to what the forums and long term blms have proposed, yes there is still things that could be tweaked but removing a skill check is not the best solution for enochian if it really needed to be changed which i dont think it does.

    what should be changed on blm is the cast time to allow instas between casts. basically the gcd still stays the same as current casts but the cast it self is less than the gcd. they did this change on astro i think it was and it would be a big boon for blm without increasing our dps.
    "Don't remove skill check."

    "But remove this thing that requires foresight into ability use."

    Enochian being made into a trait does nothing but remove one mandatory button press at the start of an encounter / dungeon.

    Reducing cast times below the GCD -vastly- changes the difficulty and style of Black Mage.
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  3. #63
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    Chida Rake
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    "Don't remove skill check."

    "But remove this thing that requires foresight into ability use."

    Enochian being made into a trait does nothing but remove one mandatory button press at the start of an encounter / dungeon.

    Reducing cast times below the GCD -vastly- changes the difficulty and style of Black Mage.
    it was really meant as a suggestion of if anything should be changed. but i agree it would also simplify the job by allowing less chance for a cancelled cast.

    ive been playing blm for 5 years now and im really enjoing where its at with the rotation and skills we have, it still carries a good challenge in difficulty but lets face facts any proposed change to blm will make the job easier.

    fixing the dead skills is what the job needs most and enochian doesnt really fall into it.
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    Last edited by chidarake; 09-05-2018 at 03:52 PM.

  4. #64
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    Zuzu Belloq
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Lore-wise as the Warrior of Light you have the Echo of Word (among many others) and can communicate with creatures most people of Eorzea can't, and talk their language. Later on Polyglot reflects the mastery of languages. I think this a neat touch to Black Mage lore that had never really been explained in depth due to HW Job quests writting to lack on many places.

    As for gameplay, Enochian only still exists as a button in form of a minor punishment for messing up the rotation in less than 30s of its use. On Heavensward it was a content button to be pressed during the rotation, every 60~75 seconds or so.
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  6. #65
    Player vVAstrAVv's Avatar
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    Thegroose Isloose
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
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    If this is your mind playing rdm i have one word for you

    RELAX!!!!
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  7. #66
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by vVAstrAVv View Post
    If this is your mind playing rdm i have one word for you

    RELAX!!!!
    You can say that with any job lol. The more you optimize, and the higher level content you do, the more you need to consider. Relaxing and not giving a care would destroy my damage output in Ultima, for instance, through lost casts and mana.
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    Ryallen Nastromos
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    You can say that with any job lol. The more you optimize, and the higher level content you do, the more you need to consider. Relaxing and not giving a care would destroy my damage output in Ultima, for instance, through lost casts and mana.
    It's really hard to optimize a class where your main rotation consists of eight buttons and only one ability you possess alters your rotation or your function in any way. (Acceleration in this case.)
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  9. #68
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    So uh, you just didn't at all read my previous post did you?
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  10. #69
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    Minati Illu
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryallen View Post
    It's really hard to optimize a class where your main rotation consists of eight buttons and only one ability you possess alters your rotation or your function in any way. (Acceleration in this case.)
    A job's difficulty isn't only tied to the number of different buttons you have to press in order to make it work. BLM's rotation difficulty is on-par with WAR's, but is one of the hardest job to play in savage raids. On the opposite, SMN has what feels like a billion different keys to press on a 2 min long rotation but is fairly easy to play.

    As Dualgunner said, RDM might be easy to play, it doesn't mean it's so easy to optimize. But I can understand that you don't need so much thought while going through the Swallow's Compass.
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    Last edited by Megguido; 09-06-2018 at 04:27 PM.

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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryallen View Post
    It's really hard to optimize a class where your main rotation consists of eight buttons and only one ability you possess alters your rotation or your function in any way. (Acceleration in this case.)
    Optimization is about uptime and buff windows, both of which a Red Mage suffers greatly without a little luck and a lot of foresight.
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