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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    ...an emote reminiscent of a beloved NPC's signature gesture.
    So, about that... I eventually worked out it's just the Elezen "welcome" (probably) and "joy" (definitely) emotes strung together, and I honestly can't remember him ever using it. Will be paying more attention as I replay Heavensward (currently up to questing in Dravania) but so far, I'm not seeing it as a 'signature' gesture at all.

    Meanwhile over in the MCH questline, Stephanivien seems to be using /joy at least once a quest, so I associate it more with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    So, about that... I eventually worked out it's just the Elezen "welcome" and "joy" emotes strung together, and I honestly can't remember him ever using it.
    He uses it at least twice, actually. Once in a cutscene, I think, and then I believe once when you've made it into his house for the first time and he's super duper excited that his bestest most dear hero-friend-beloved is finally there meeting his family and checking out his digs and ISN'T IT GREAT!?!?!? and when you talk to him he does it. (If it's not then, then it's some other time he's in the house with you and you can talk to him for optional dialogue.) You are right in that it's not actually common, but it's pretty distinct and something only he has ever done.

    The emote is kinda similar to welcome and joy, but for the 'welcome' part the hands actually go up and forward (the actual /welcome is more out to the sides), and although the joy part is very similar, it's slower and if you haven't targeted anything, you look at your fist. You also get a giant face which is very unlike pretty much everything else we've got in our repertoire. (exception: male elezen /happy, which is a pretty aggressive /welcome with a step forward that morphs into /psych)

    He's pretty expressive in general though. In the Japanese cutscenes he gets super wide eyes and stuff and he does something similar, and he gives exasperated shrugs at a certain young lord's attitude.
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    So... does the English version actually change what emotes he does in cutscenes?

    (and yeah, I've seen the /happy emote - very over-the-top considering how restrained most of their emotes are! Wouldn't really describe it as an aggressive /welcome though.)
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    I play a male Elezen, so I found the emote a tad redundant!
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    Thought haurchefant was pretty overrated anyway
    Estinien and Aymeric much better Elezen bro tier.
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    helluuuuuuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    So... does the English version actually change what emotes he does in cutscenes?
    Yeah...he's a lot blander in the beginning and they even toned down his gestures. They had to slowly bring him back to his correct characterization after there was some sort of outcry, haha. In Japanese he gets super excited about the WoL...like...really excited...he's actually a character archetype in Japanese writing, sort of the 'excitable and inappropriate eccentric' type. We don't have this character archetype and would have regarded him as some kind of creepy villain immediately when it was meant to be humorous. I think in the end he was still as lovable as he was intended to be, so I don't mind the English version at all. (Yes, I know some people don't care about him! But a lot still do!)

    I'd call /welcome aggressive just because as a short person if I had someone over six feet throwing their arms out and stepping right into my space like that chest first, I think I'd be backing up a few steps. XD
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    I would like to add a thing that has been buggin me. They add all this to the mogstation, they changed the vet rewards to a sub reward and haven't done anything for that in a year. I know it's pretty petty of me but still kinda bugs me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotic13371337 View Post
    Always hate seeing Emotes in the Mogshop... So many chances for sidequests that reward them instead gone to $$$
    I'm reminded of that Lord of the Dance NPC from early on in ARR that tells the Miqo'te girl that her dancing is so bad that it rivals the Calamity in its abomination unto the realm. Why doesn't he come back and show us more dances? He was funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmemeAmeklin View Post
    Yeah...he's a lot blander in the beginning and they even toned down his gestures. They had to slowly bring him back to his correct characterization after there was some sort of outcry, haha. In Japanese he gets super excited about the WoL...like...really excited...he's actually a character archetype in Japanese writing, sort of the 'excitable and inappropriate eccentric' type. We don't have this character archetype and would have regarded him as some kind of creepy villain immediately when it was meant to be humorous. I think in the end he was still as lovable as he was intended to be, so I don't mind the English version at all. (Yes, I know some people don't care about him! But a lot still do!)
    I was aware that they'd changed his script/personality and had to back up on it, but I didn't realised they'd been able to change his emotes as well. Anyway, I got through the game the first time without knowing about it and without really noticing anything was amiss. Maybe because they 'course corrected' early enough that it just seemed like he's becoming more friendly as you get to know him better.

    I do remember him being excited when we first got to Fortemps Manor, but I don't think he was doing any emotes then. Will have to pay double attention with my other alt character when he gets there.



    Quote Originally Posted by AmemeAmeklin View Post
    I'd call /welcome aggressive just because as a short person if I had someone over six feet throwing their arms out and stepping right into my space like that chest first, I think I'd be backing up a few steps. XD
    Haha, fair enough! Though I was thinking more in comparison to the actual /welcome emote. They're not really the same motion other than being 'arms out'. Though I guess it could get used as a dramatic welcome gesture in a cutscene. (One of my alt characters is Elezen so I can test it out.)

    Also since you mentioned /psych... that's a weird animation. The one time I remember seeing a character use it, I thought they were meant to be angry and it didn't really make sense.
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