New items on the mog station

[Alleo]

Except they can absolutely be a hindrance. If those moggle coins aren't checked, rich people can destroy a server's economy. Not to mention, the premium server locks a much requested feature in moving inventory between retainers behind a paywall. Red Hare is literally nothing more than Sleipnir with a different aesthetic. So you aren't remotely comparing the same things.

The thing is though, that different people see different things as important. If you dont care about the market or inventory, the app and its coins should not be a problem, the same how its no problem for those that just see cash shop items as pure luxus items. But a crafter will hate that more inventory space and MB control is locked behind the coins and fee and a collector, who might be mainly playing the game to collect pets, mounts and other collectable, will probably hate to have to pay real money if they want it all. Thus it can affect people on both sides. Thus my post about how somehow people should not complain here and should just accept it but its fine to complain about coins.

My point is: Let everyone complain about what they want. Even if its SE decision and even if we cant do much against it.

They can. You don't make those calls that it's useless just because you find things about it that you don't agree with. You're not a spokesperson for everyone playing the game exactly. So, please don't try to speak for me or surmise what I would say or determine is enough.

Where exactly did I speak for you in that post? I simply pointed out that everyone will have a point where it gets enough. I did not even say what would be the point that it would be enough, just that everyone has one. (Heck its not even about something in the mog station but could be content or something that is the breaking point) Maybe some can agree to nearly everything a company does but even those have a breaking line. And thats my point: You are fine with how it is and dont see much of a problem with it. But others are not. For them the line is already overdone or maybe near it and they might want to voice their opinion to stop more from happening, because again there are companies out there that are doing a lot that is just pure greed and yet even those had gotten that much backlash that they stopped part of their plans. But it should never come that far.

Also if its hurting people like me and we are kinda paying a sub fee and might stop paying this fee then this hurts the game. Because if enough people stop paying the fee then this can get bad quite fast. I dont want this to happen because I do enjoy quite the parts of the game thus I and probably other do point out things that could change. And honestly dropping the prices or giving us the event items back into the game would also hurt none of us players either.

[Sigma-Astra]

Where exactly did I speak for you in that post? I simply pointed out that everyone will have a point where it gets enough. I did not even say what would be the point that it would be enough, just that everyone has one. (Heck its not even about something in the mog station but could be content or something that is the breaking point).

Right here exactly. You're speaking for me that a company can't do what they want because there will be a time that I'll say it's enough. They still can, it does not matter what I think or you think. They still can and once I don't find the game quite as fun as I used to, I'll just leave quietly. That's the end result, a company can do whatever they want whether you find it immoral or not. They're not obligated to please you or me 100%, 24/7, 7 days a week.

So no they cant do whatever they want with it because there will be a time where even you and others will say "its enough".

Maybe some can agree to nearly everything a company does but even those have a breaking line. And thats my point: You are fine with how it is and dont see much of a problem with it. But others are not. For them the line is already overdone or maybe near it and they might want to voice their opinion to stop more from happening, because again there are companies out there that are doing a lot that is just pure greed and yet even those had gotten that much backlash that they stopped part of their plans. But it should never come that far.

Also if its hurting people like me and we are kinda paying a sub fee and might stop paying this fee then this hurts the game. Because if enough people stop paying the fee then this can get bad quite fast. I dont want this to happen because I do enjoy quite the parts of the game thus I and probably other do point out things that could change. And honestly dropping the prices or giving us the event items back into the game would also hurt none of us players either.

The people who are against the cash shop are more than likely a drop in the bucket for subs compared towards the rest of the playerbase that either doesn't care or doesn't have a problem with it and the ones that actually like it. The ones that don't like it mostly gravitate towards the forum which isn't a clear indication of anything. They probably look at the numbers of people buying over the numbers of people not buying, and I'm sure, considering that more things get pushed into the cash shop that the numbers for buying are much higher than the opposition.

[Alleo]

Right here exactly. You're speaking for me that a company can't do what they want because there will be a time that I'll say it's enough. They still can, it does not matter what I think or you think. They still can and once I don't find the game quite as fun as I used to, I'll just leave quietly. That's the end result, a company can do whatever they want whether you find it immoral or not. They're not obligated to please you or me 100%, 24/7, 7 days a week.

And leaving quietly is the worse thing that can happen to a company. Thats why they even have a screen that read that a complaint is worth way more than a compliment. Because if they have them they can at least change (if they want to). Anyway if one is fine with the cash shop that fine but if someone is not fine then it should be fine too if they complain about it. Even if it might not change something. (But it honestly also doesnt hurt anyone either if someone does complain)