We Really Need To Talk About The State And Path Of FFXIV

[MoroMurasaki]

Here's a community tip.

The moment you accuse complete strangers on the internet of astroturfing likes over an argument of gameplay design for a paid subscription MMO, you need to get off the internet and spend some time in the real world, because it's a clear sign that you've lost your mind and your grip on reality. And don't even try to push your derailing accountability towards everyone else, you're the one who brought up 'astroturfing' in the first place. Makes one wonder why you thought of such a term and went to such lengths to insert it into this thread in the first place.

Since the thread is derailed enough already - If you do discord contact me on mine! We have a discord for... rational people I guess? I dunno.

moromurasaki#5719

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Sigma if you see this, as part of 'The Six' same to you. Or find Hyo, Cass or Dual.

[SaitoHikari]

Since the thread is derailed enough already - If you do discord contact me on mine! We have a discord for... rational people I guess? I dunno.

Shameless plug is shameless. Please stop by.

Sigma if you see this, as part of 'The Six' same to you. Or find Hyo, Cass or Dual.

SaitoHikari#2973

Although I'm already in several different FFXIV groups, one of the most prominent being a group of refugees from my previous MMO along with friends we've made in this game. Selli and Maygi (the person who solo'd HoH as a Bard) included. Our network is quite odd, now that I think about it. Then again, the network we had in our previous MMO was absurd enough to include dataminers and translators from around the world too, but FFXIV doesn't have a similar community for good reason I suppose.

[Dualgunner]

Or find Hyo, Cass or Dual.

I AM A FREE SPIRIT. A STALLION AMONG MEN. I WILL NOT BE COWED BY

my discord is in my sig hmu bbcakes

[RokkuEkkusu]

I'm not surprised another thread got derailed to the Seventh Hell. Question is how much longer with the thread last if the derailment keeps up.

[alimdia]

It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Here's another, they won't stop derailing the thread.

It takes more than one person to derail a thread with a side argument. You have as much of the blame as the people you're accusing of derailing because you keep replying, and not only that but I've seen you derail other threads with your anti-raider crusade, threads that had nothing to do with raiding or parsing.

[ko_]

IS it bad I want to poke Kisai's nose? And give everyone else huge icecream cups? Like it's the weekend. Lets do emotes and live life? :O

[Magic-Mal]

Updated OP to include "Idea for Alternative Gear Progression" section.

[Sigma-Astra]

You said it, not me. Amazing how the same six people dogpile on a poster within minutes of each other isn't it?

.....And it's amazing how the same one person continues to try and circulate arguments and turn the rest of the forum users against six or so something people.

That's what we call bullying and harassment at this point. Possibly slander.

[MsQi]

Like all people who are against flying OP's arguments either support it or are just nonsense. As she points out, it's more efficient and it allows you to skip encounters. Yay, great points for it! After you have already likely rode from one end of the map to the other, several times, you earn that ability so it doesn't get stupid and repetitive. Fighting the same mobs over and over is not content.

Flying allows for more varied content.

[Magic-Mal]

Like all people who are against flying OP's arguments either support it or are just nonsense. As she points out, it's more efficient and it allows you to skip encounters. Yay, great points for it! After you have already likely rode from one end of the map to the other, several times, you earn that ability so it doesn't get stupid and repetitive. Fighting the same mobs over and over is not content.

Flying allows for more varied content.

I agree that the point of flying is ultimately a reward for completing the MSQ in the area and finding the other currents but flying doesn't really add anything to the game besides faster travel and nice views. I can't think of any content that involves flying because correct me if I'm wrong, Diadem is the only duty with flying being essential. But only because of faster travel and safety. It doesn't add anything else actually...

While flying we are unable to do anything besides eat food and drink potions. We are completely restricted from any sort of mechanics in the game(because the mechanics are ground-level)

Now if flying had mechanics or real content associated with it, I'd probably like flying alot more. We could have air combat, not likely though. Having some objectives, collectables, or sightseeing in the air would help. Also I'm reminded of an activity in DC Universe Online where you had race challenges. Simple mini-game where you had to fly through rings and if you were good at it you got gold medals and achievements. There were running race mini-games too. And the races were scattered all over the maps, a ton of them. Some were pretty difficult to win. I could see a thing like that being enjoyable as I do love open-world activities myself at least. Things like the sightseeing log and jump puzzles.

EDIT: Example of a Flying challenge
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TayppHucUjA