White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Penthea]

Ignoring the hysterics from both sides... The item could be a ring, boots, whatever... it has sentimental and some exclusive value. Why not have a little empathy and understand that the people who worked so hard to earn the items wanted SE to keep the promise they made?

Because the main argument in the thread no longer is that the earrings share the same name as the original 1.0 earrings, but that anyone who didn't play 1.0 doesn't deserve anything from it. They sound similar but they're really not the same. One is just wanting something rebranded, the other is supporting exclusion.

If the earrings had a different name this thread would still be here, but instead it would be people complaining about how they look identical to the original so players glancing at them won't know they're 1.0 veterans.

I completely understand wanting the earrings to have a different name, but much of the thinly veiled elitism surrounding anything related to 1.0 is frankly disappointing to read.

[Ozz]

If the earrings had a different name this thread would still be here, but instead it would be people complaining about how they look identical to the original so players glancing at them won't know they're 1.0 veterans.

I completely understand wanting the earrings to have a different name, but much of the thinly veiled elitism surrounding anything related to 1.0 is frankly disappointing to read.

The fact is 1.0, during the 1.2 cycle was awesome, because most people chose to snob it completely they now whinge because they feel entitled to what we got/earned.
The people who were there and played should be able to have our promised exclusive rewards kept that way. If they ever give out the legacy tattoo, choco and the original gobbuue - I would probably unsubscribe out of principle and not look back. This is from someone who has never been unsubbed - its just the way i feel. The JP's/SE seem so big on honour and keeping their promises - well we were told these were exclusive. They need to keep their word.

[Hestzhyen]

Because the main argument in the thread no longer is that the earrings share the same name as the original 1.0 earrings, but that anyone who didn't play 1.0 doesn't deserve anything from it. They sound similar but they're really not the same. One is just wanting something rebranded, the other is supporting exclusion.

If the earrings had a different name this thread would still be here, but instead it would be people complaining about how they look identical to the original so players glancing at them won't know they're 1.0 veterans.

I completely understand wanting the earrings to have a different name, but much of the thinly veiled elitism surrounding anything related to 1.0 is frankly disappointing to read.

I'm pretty sure the people complaining about the item being introduced with "replica" in the title would be soundly laughed out of the forums. I do sympathize with them a bit but if the most important differentiator is kept- identifying who was there for the real deal vs. those who joined later- then it's okay.

And honestly, in the end, if there are people who don't want to share, then so be it. I totally get that even though XIV is apparently the wrong game if you want to have cool shinies to hoard and show off. I'm of the mind that exclusivity for being there at the time is not a bad thing, especially for something that had to be earned under the circumstances the original White Ravens were. If I was there and fought to earn it, and was promised it would never be re-introduced, I would be ticked off when it was offered for no investment later too.

[Penthea]

The people who were there and played should be able to have our promised exclusive rewards kept that way.

Most of the time I disagree with this. I played WoW for a long time since very early days and I have a lot of nice stuff that is no longer obtainable. I never supported the exclusivity of it because it deprives other players of content to enjoy.

If they ever give out the legacy tattoo, choco and the original gobbuue - I would probably unsubscribe out of principle and not look back.

I strongly disagree with the idea of making the tattoo available to 2.0+ players because the tattoo's sole function is to mark someone as a 1.0 player. It does literally nothing else because it was designed to do literally nothing else. And it should stay that way.

However things like gear and mounts were not designed for purely cosmetic reasons given they have an actual use in-game, so in my opinion those are up for debate.

The JP's/SE seem so big on honour and keeping their promises - well we were told these were exclusive. They need to keep their word.

We were also told that housing wouldn't be tied to keeping a subscription active but you don't see threads about that promise broken despite the fact that players often mention how they feel their house traps them into paying for a game they want to shelve for a while. It seems people are very selective about what promises are okay to break.

[Zephera]

The strength of the true supporters that by subbing and playing helped make the game you are playing even possible!

Hmm, implying anyone who started playing after 1.0 is not a true supporter of the game. Not a look that helps you I think.

[Ozz]

Hmm, implying anyone who started playing after 1.0 is not a true supporter of the game. Not a look that helps you I think.

Probably a new supporter perhaps
refer: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/43218

[Penthea]

Probably a new supporter perhaps

New supporter? Do you think 2.0 was launched last week?

[Theodric]

Hmm, implying anyone who started playing after 1.0 is not a true supporter of the game. Not a look that helps you I think.

Yeah. I'm not convinced those complaining about the earrings even enjoy the game to the extent that they claim. If they truly enjoyed it then they wouldn't need to desperately cling to something they did six years ago and demand exclusivity through ultimatums. Instead they would be eagerly encouraging the developers to give players who started after 2.0 more of a taste of what 1.0 had to offer.

When I come to enjoy something, I like to share it with friends and family. Even strangers, at times. As it stands, I feel like I need to give the Lord of the Rings movies another watch because reading this thread has made me think of Gollum...

[technole]

Yeah. I'm not convinced those complaining about the earrings even enjoy the game to the extent that they claim. If they truly enjoyed it then they wouldn't need to desperately cling to something they did six years ago and demand exclusivity through ultimatums. Instead they would be eagerly encouraging the developers to give players who started after 2.0 more of a taste of what 1.0 had to offer.

Get over yourself.

It's not clinging to an item, it's being able to trust the developers to keep their word that when they say something was exclusive, it stays that way.

Second, the fact they even recycled an old item, which has nothing to do with what the event really entails is also disturbing. Lets just make a quest and find something so we can waste little development time as possible for celebrating five years.

This was a miss, no denying that. The fact he had to apologize for it says our voices are being heard and he agrees.

[BillyKaplan]

It's not clinging to an item, it's being able to trust the developers to keep their word that when they say something was exclusive, it stays that way.

Arguably implying this is the first time they did that. I wonder how many people in this thread were overjoyed when the Moogle outfit made its way to the mog station, despite previously being a fanfest exclusive. Either way, things losing exclusivity have a precedence in the game, whether it was something "taken from" you, or made accessible to you.

Second, the fact they even recycled an old item, which has nothing to do with what the event really entails--

>> Event remembering 1.0 and the Calamity, and what things were like prior, this time explicitly trying to recreate some of the mood of 1.0 towards the end
>> Gives 1.0 items

Has nothing to do with it...?

The fact he had to apologize for it says our voices are being heard and he agrees.

One does not mean the other. They've released Antiquated and Replica items before. The fact they completely overlooked something like this, which in my opinion should've been pretty obvious, shows how important it is to the developers - it's not. But the outcry is enough to get a response out of them.