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  1. #1021
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    Time-based exclusives are horsecrap, the earrings are not excluded.

    This is a huge theme park MMO. If I see something, and I want it, it should be attainable through enough time, effort, and skill. I can get Ultimate Coil weapons. I can get the Mentor mount. That's the way it should be. Being told "Sorry, you can't get this ever because new players are second-class citizens" is not okay, and never should be.

    Why? Because we all pay the same sub every month. I'm subbed to FFXIV, the whole game, not 95% of it.

    The earrings are hideous, I don't care about them. I care about the principle here, it's time for time-based exclusives to stop. It's not fair to new players. I get that old players want to be rewarded. But, to have those rewards be unattainable for everyone else is a slap in the face to all the new players' sub money.
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    Last edited by dragonseth07; 09-01-2018 at 03:43 AM.

  2. #1022
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    Karuru Karu
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    Time-based exclusives are horsecrap, the earrings are not excluded.

    This is a huge theme park MMO. If I see something, and I want it, it should be attainable through enough time, effort, and skill. I can get Ultimate Coil weapons. I can get the Mentor mount. That's the way it should be. Being told "Sorry, you can't get this ever because new players are second-class citizens" is not okay, and never should be.

    Why? Because we all pay the same sub every month. I'm subbed to FFXIV, the whole game, not 95% of it.

    The earrings are hideous, I don't care about them. I care about the principle here, it's time for time-based exclusives to stop. It's not fair to new players. I get that old players want to be rewarded. But, to have those rewards be unattainable for everyone else is a slap in the face to all the new players' sub money.
    Actually the people with these exclusive items are not paying the same sub ^___^

    However, I agree that all items should be obtainable with enough time and effort. But handing them out like nothing at an event is not the proper way. They could have added them as a Coil T9 Savage reward when you clear the fight synched / at minimum item level for example, to keep the value as a trophy item.
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    Last edited by Tint; 09-01-2018 at 03:49 AM.

  3. #1023
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    Jeez. More whining over these than with the state of things like Pagos...

    For the record, having played for 3.5 years, I never knew these earrings existed, nor have I seen them until now (and I was on Balmung for all of HW). So to say it’s a vocal minority is an understatement.
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  4. #1024
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    Im gonna rock my white ravens and there's nothing you nerds can do about it
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  5. #1025
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    Woah all the Lagancy player this horriable? I love the new white reaven earing. Thank you Yoshida.
    Don't worry about thos 1.0 player let them rage and cry, they discount already better then anything else.
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    Last edited by LastFireAce; 09-01-2018 at 04:20 AM.

  6. #1026
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    Yoshida...

    When your avatar stepped off that armor and personally thanked me for playing your game, it brought back a floodgate of emotion for me.

    I come from the era where a game's ending was normally nothing more than a simple "Congratulations" screen. Where a "Thank you for playing" would have made the grind worthwhile.

    And it did. For one wondrous moment, I was a kid at a bowling alley. Out of quarters but happy because I had conquered the game in front of me.

    Thanks for that memory and experience.
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  7. #1027
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    So much salt towards people who have things they don't. To the point where they are just accusing everyone of "bragging" or needing to feel "special" just because they have an achievement or rewards that they don't have.

    I've had people in-game get salty about my mount collection to the point where I ended up feeling insecure about even using my favourite mounts because people would accuse me of showing off or bragging.
    I think you misunderstood. I haven't had the impression that anyone in this thread is mad that "other people have achievements they don't"; I for one can't care less. What I don't like so much is the drama that has been created over something I don't consider right, to the point that Yoshida himself felt compelled to apologize. And let's be honest here, as much as one would like to paint the situation with kinder words, this drama does boil down to people wanting to feel exclusive and special. The good memories and the satisfaction of having accomplished something won't work for them; they want to own things that no one else owns, and they want it to show. It's that simple.

    Now, people who beat Coil back in the day saw how Coil became much easier for everyone. Same about people (like me) who worked for several months straight to reach max PVP rank, back when Wolf Marks glamours were rank-locked. I don't see why 1.0 players should get a different treatment, especially about a single event that happened 6 years ago. The past doesn't tend to be relevant anymore beyond the private memories everyone will have.

    And I reiterate, this isn't out of spite. Quite the opposite, I echo the sentiment from some posts about how it's good that everything becomes obtainable sooner or later. New players can enjoy what they missed, and people who are into exclusive stuff can enjoy their exclusiveness while it lasts, which is quite long. Just not forever.

    (For the record, I enjoyed the Rising event but I didn't get the earrings. I have no use for them, and at this point they're more a reminder of all this drama than they are of the anniversary).
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    Last edited by Clover_Blake; 09-01-2018 at 06:05 AM.
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  8. #1028
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenonimo View Post
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    And we're probably at 10 cumulative pages of people complaining how long this thread is. Congratulations, you're even lower than the people you just tried to look down on!
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  9. #1029
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post

    This is a huge theme park MMO. If I see something, and I want it, it should be attainable through enough time, effort, and skill. I can get Ultimate Coil weapons. I can get the Mentor mount. That's the way it should be. Being told "Sorry, you can't get this ever because new players are second-class citizens" is not okay, and never should be.

    Why? Because we all pay the same sub every month. I'm subbed to FFXIV, the whole game, not 95% of it.

    The earrings are hideous, I don't care about them. I care about the principle here, it's time for time-based exclusives to stop. It's not fair to new players. I get that old players want to be rewarded. But, to have those rewards be unattainable for everyone else is a slap in the face to all the new players' sub money.
    A mighty entitled one this is. You didnt obviously pay the sub nor play and earn the items in 1.0 !
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    Quote Originally Posted by LastFireAce View Post
    Woah all the Lagancy player this horriable? I love the new white reaven earing. Thank you Yoshida.
    Don't worry about thos 1.0 player let them rage and cry, they discount already better then anything else.
    Here we go again with the Legacy discount, had you played and supported the game back in the time, you also could have had the items and discount. Oh the jealousy.
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