White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[dragonseth07]

Time-based exclusives are horsecrap, the earrings are not excluded.

This is a huge theme park MMO. If I see something, and I want it, it should be attainable through enough time, effort, and skill. I can get Ultimate Coil weapons. I can get the Mentor mount. That's the way it should be. Being told "Sorry, you can't get this ever because new players are second-class citizens" is not okay, and never should be.

Why? Because we all pay the same sub every month. I'm subbed to FFXIV, the whole game, not 95% of it.

The earrings are hideous, I don't care about them. I care about the principle here, it's time for time-based exclusives to stop. It's not fair to new players. I get that old players want to be rewarded. But, to have those rewards be unattainable for everyone else is a slap in the face to all the new players' sub money.

[Tint]

Time-based exclusives are horsecrap, the earrings are not excluded.

This is a huge theme park MMO. If I see something, and I want it, it should be attainable through enough time, effort, and skill. I can get Ultimate Coil weapons. I can get the Mentor mount. That's the way it should be. Being told "Sorry, you can't get this ever because new players are second-class citizens" is not okay, and never should be.

Why? Because we all pay the same sub every month. I'm subbed to FFXIV, the whole game, not 95% of it.

The earrings are hideous, I don't care about them. I care about the principle here, it's time for time-based exclusives to stop. It's not fair to new players. I get that old players want to be rewarded. But, to have those rewards be unattainable for everyone else is a slap in the face to all the new players' sub money.

Actually the people with these exclusive items are not paying the same sub ^___^

However, I agree that all items should be obtainable with enough time and effort. But handing them out like nothing at an event is not the proper way. They could have added them as a Coil T9 Savage reward when you clear the fight synched / at minimum item level for example, to keep the value as a trophy item.

[Ozz]

This is a huge theme park MMO. If I see something, and I want it, it should be attainable through enough time, effort, and skill. I can get Ultimate Coil weapons. I can get the Mentor mount. That's the way it should be. Being told "Sorry, you can't get this ever because new players are second-class citizens" is not okay, and never should be.

Why? Because we all pay the same sub every month. I'm subbed to FFXIV, the whole game, not 95% of it.

The earrings are hideous, I don't care about them. I care about the principle here, it's time for time-based exclusives to stop. It's not fair to new players. I get that old players want to be rewarded. But, to have those rewards be unattainable for everyone else is a slap in the face to all the new players' sub money.

A mighty entitled one this is. You didnt obviously pay the sub nor play and earn the items in 1.0 !

[dragonseth07]

A mighty entitled one this is. You didnt obviously pay the sub nor play and earn the items in 1.0 !

So my sub is less valuable than yours? Because I don't have a time machine?

New players are not second-class citizens.

Everyone should have the chance to earn anything, not be arbitrarily locked out because of when we decided to play or not.

[Ozz]

So my sub is less valuable than yours? Because I don't have a time machine?

New players are not second-class citizens.

Everyone should have the chance to earn anything, not be arbitrarily locked out because of when we decided to play or not.

No. just no. your sense of entitlement doesnt overrule the effort and long term subs that other have played. Again, had you played and supported the game back at the time you would have had access. Dont blame others or feel you sub is less valuable just because you chose to not give the game ago. in my opinion the battle system in 1.23 was better than what it is now, i paid for the memories, i have my items.

[dragonseth07]

No. just no. your sense of entitlement doesnt overrule the effort and long term subs that other have played. Again, had you played and supported the game back at the time you would have had access. Dont blame others or feel you sub is less valuable just because you chose to not give the game ago. in my opinion the battle system in 1.23 was better than what it is now, i paid for the memories, i have my items.

I don't blame anybody, and I don't FEEL entitled. I AM entitled, because I pay for the whole game. I don't pay for most of the game, I pay for ALL of it.

My sub is worth just as much as yours, regardless of when we started playing. Unless SE wants to charge me less, it makes no sense to provide me with less content.

You know, this is the take-home point:

Unless SE wants to charge me less, it makes no sense to provide me with less content. It is objectively unfair.

Again, the content itself isn't worth caring about. The earrings are ugly, all the 1.0 content is honestly not very cool. I don't want any of it. I don't care about any of it.

I care about the unfairness.

Time-gated exclusive content is a cancer, in all it's forms. If you want to have old stuff be gated, that's fine. But, do it in a different way. Make someone clear T9 Savage blindfolded, for all I care. But, everything should be available through some means other than time travel.