White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Canadane]

Sooo... if the event item is renamed with "replica" in front will people calm down?

I understand enjoying exclusive items, and trophies from old conquests but some of you 1.0ers get those torches and pitchforks going over the silliest things.

On a side note I don't even care for the earrings and was going to toss them in storage...

Pretty much adding it as a Replica will be acceptable to the majority, it sounds like.
It's not really about 1.0, it's about giving away trophy items as an event handout.

[Magic-Mal]

So how does putting "Replica" in the front make people feel better when it'd literally be the exact same thing anyway again..? This is super petty.

[Skivvy]

So how does putting "Replica" in the front make people feel better when it'd literally be the exact same thing anyway again..? This is super petty.

Despite what a lot of people try to make it seem like, it's not a bad thing to be proud of trophies, or accomplishments, or having a unique shiny item that is extremely rare. The original was from a challenging fight in 1.0. Having the new earring listed as a replica will differentiate between those who obtained it i 1.0, and those who did not. People still get their glamour even if it says 'replica'.

[Corue]

So how does putting "Replica" in the front make people feel better when it'd literally be the exact same thing anyway again..? This is super petty.

Because it wouldn't be the exact same item as the one from the fight. It would share the appearance and the name but it'd be a different item exclusive to the event.

Legacies get to keep their achievement item and new players get an event glamour.

[Magic-Mal]

Maybe they just didn't find it relevant enough. Or, they thought that the earrings would be a good way to celebrate FFXIV going on it's 5th rising Anniversary. They're clearly giving them out because they themselves feel it has meaning. In a way, they're celebrating the earrings.

[HyoMinPark]

Maybe they just didn't find it relevant enough. Or, they thought that the earrings would be a good way to celebrate FFXIV going on it's 5th rising Anniversary. They're clearly giving them out because they themselves feel it has meaning. In a way, they're celebrating the earrings.

I mean, it still wouldn’t have been hard to code them as Level 1 White-Gear Replicas and still celebrate them as an item.

[Istaru]

I was going to keep out if this, but I’m going to add my 2 cents. This isn’t directed at anyone though I do expect a few select people to just start attacking anyway since I’m not agreeing with them.

As I stated earlier, I do have the earrings, and I use them constantly, they are always in my armory so I can instantly glamour new earrings to them. They are a part of my character. Enough of that, that’s not my point at all.

I have thought about this a lot lately, and I was the person who originally posted the data mined information a few months ago, but the post was quickly deleted. I can sum up my feelings in one word.

Disappointment.

I’m not really mad at newer people who would like to have those earrings. I don’t hate the developers or the game. I truly am simply disappointed in our community and in the developers of this game. To people who say to just leave, or shut up or step aside, I can only respond with “no”. I’m here and disappointed because I actually care about the game and I want to see it grow and I feel things like this potentially undercut that.

When 1.0 launches, anyone in the beta or following the beta knew that this game wasn’t ready for launch. We told them that it wasn’t ready but they launched it anyway, and to our horror it was as bad or worse than we feared. What did we do? Did we exclaim “What a piece of {redacted} game this is, I’m leaving and not coming back” like the majority? No. We stayed. I did not leave then, and I’m not leaving now.

What ever happened to “Do what you say and say what you do”?

They told us certain things could only be obtained in certain ways at certain times. Yes, things do change. When you have told someone that you will do something for them in exchange for them doing something for you, you should honor that. To break that too often, without any discussion or apparent reason undermines that trust.

My disappointment isn’t just over the earrings. It’s all the things that they told us “hurry up and do this before it’s gone”, only to backtrack on them over and over again. You’ve seen the list, at this point they have backed off just about all of it. I expect this behavior from places like EA and Activision. I truly expected better from SE and I absolutely expected better from Yoshida and his team.

Why was this necessary? Why not do something similar instead?

Everyone that talks about the TOS, you are correct, they are free to do as they wish with the game. Just as we are free to speak with our money. Yes, I am still subbed, but I do not spend anywhere near as much money as I used to. I used to have 3 accounts, I only have 1 right now.

I will end with this.

Legacy isn’t all about the reduced sub, or the “tattoo”, it’s not a tattoo per se, or the chocobo, or the goobbue, or the earring or the horn, or any of those items. It’s about putting your faith in a company and a team and having that faith rewarded. That is what legacy is really all about. Every time they undo part of the tangible items, such as the earrings or other things, they are undoing that faith. They are saying “You were wrong to put faith in us, we aren’t any better.”

[Stormfur]

It’s about putting your faith in a company and a team and having that faith rewarded. That is what legacy is really all about. Every time they undo part of the tangible items, such as the earrings or other things, they are undoing that faith. They are saying “You were wrong to put faith in us, we aren’t any better.”

I completely understand your point of view. I didn't know that these earrings even existed until this thread started -- it's not like 2.0 players have been clamoring for them for years and SE finally caved.

While we, the players, can put faith in a company to do the right thing -- that opens up a whole can of worms and creates even more questions -- what IS the right thing?

The right thing according to some 1.0 players is to leave these earrings alone and exclusive forever to show their support in a difficult and uncertain time.

The right thing according to other 1.0 players is to make the earrings available but make them "replicas".

The right thing according to some 2.0 players is to forget about it, since they're just earrings.

The right thing according to other 2.0 players is to make everything available to everyone and stop whining about what happened 5 years ago.

The problem is...no matter what the company decides to do, some group is going to "lose faith". And interestingly enough, another group might gain that faith.

Remember the Bunny Suit fiasco? You had people saying "I don't want to see a scantily clad Roe dude in fishnet stockings." And when SE made them available to everyone, maybe the people who were upset about that "lost faith" in SE not to cave into user demands. But at the same time, the group who so strongly advocated for them gained faith that SE was more open-minded and willing to make adjustment to fit their glamour wishes.

It seems that no matter what they try, some group is going to be unhappy. They really can't win.

[Fawkes]

The right thing according to some 2.0 players is to forget about it, since they're just earrings.

The right thing according to other 2.0 players is to make everything available to everyone and stop whining about what happened 5 years ago.

The problem is...no matter what the company decides to do, some group is going to "lose faith". And interestingly enough, another group might gain that faith. .

I don't get why they're so invested though. I never saw anyone clamoring for these earrings, why would they care if SE came out and said "oops, nevermind we're not giving those out"?

[Istaru]

I completely understand your point of view. I didn't know that these earrings even existed until this thread started -- it's not like 2.0 players have been clamoring for them for years and SE finally caved.

While we, the players, can put faith in a company to do the right thing -- that opens up a whole can of worms and creates even more questions -- what IS the right thing?

It seems that no matter what they try, some group is going to be unhappy. They really can't win.

Yes, someone will be unhappy. I agree with you.

I really hope that most people think that honoring your promises, obligations and such might be a good place to start. If you can’t do that, at least try to work things out before blowing it up and ignoring those obligations.

Remember the Bunny Suit fiasco? You had people saying "I don't want to see a scantily clad Roe dude in fishnet stockings." And when SE made them available to everyone, maybe the people who were upset about that "lost faith" in SE not to cave into user demands. But at the same time, the group who so strongly advocated for them gained faith that SE was more open-minded and willing to make adjustment to fit their glamour wishes.

How can anyone forget? lol

In that case I believe they said nothing for a moment and then said yes later. I feel, at that point, they had to make it as long as it was physically possible to do so. Say what you do and do what you say.

Their faith was justified, while it took a long time, the team did deliver on that obligation.