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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I was never saying that you wanted it handed to you—that was hypothetical for the sake of the argument at hand. You were basically putting words in my mouth saying that I said you “don’t deserve it”; I gave you an example of when I would actually tell you you didn’t deserve something (i.e., if you wanted it just handed to you). Use your reading comprehension and critical thinking skills.

    I don’t care how long you’ve played MMOs, nor did I mention anywhere that it even mattered. Not sure why you’re bringing it up to me.

    I told you all the options you had to progress from i350 to i370. Go back and read them. I also said that there was nothing wrong with implementing new systems, but, again, you seem to have not even read that. What we have right now is what we have. If you want the gear progression, you have to put in the time for it utilitizing the systems this game currently offers. If you won’t put in the time, then you will just have to make do with what you have.

    I also never said anything about my opinion being “law”. Again, you didn’t actually read what I wrote. However, it is solid fact that casual content does not require high item-level gear, and that high item-level gear is overkill for it; that’s not an opinion, but just how it is.
    I've read your posts. Stop declaring I didn't read your posts. And stop telling me to read your posts again and again.
    YOUR OPINION IS NOT LAW. I did not find your opinion entirely of merit and dismissed parts of it. Stop interpreting that as me not reading your sacred texts.
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    Last edited by Edax; 08-28-2018 at 10:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I've read your posts. Stop declaring I didn't read your posts. And stop telling me to read your posts again and again.
    YOUR OPINION IS NOT LAW. I did not find your opinion entirely of merit and dismissed parts of it. Stop interpreting that as me not reading your sacred texts.
    I suppose when your answer doesn't actually answer anything she said, it's natural to wonder if you even read her post or are just using it as a jumping off point. For instance, you're the only one who's making the claim that she thinks her opinion is law, despite that she said that's not at all what she thinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    I suppose when your answer doesn't actually answer anything she said, it's natural to wonder if you even read her post or are just using it as a jumping off point. For instance, you're the only one who's making the claim that she thinks her opinion is law, despite that she said that's not at all what she thinks.
    Your right, she didn't technically say her opinion is law. But she still thinks way way too highly of it.
    She keeps insisting I have to read her posts. Again and again and again. And she incorrectly prefaces her demands by insisting I didn't read her posts.
    I have dismissed her opinion and have moved on, and she keeps insisting I have to reread her posts. This is a discussion about the state and path of FFXIV. If she doesn't agree with my opinion, then fine. But she needs to accept I don't agree with hers and move on without making up lies about me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Your right, she didn't technically say her opinion is law. But she still thinks way way too highly of it.
    She keeps insisting I have to read her posts. Again and again and again. And she incorrectly prefaces her demands by insisting I didn't read her posts.
    I have dismissed her opinion and have moved on, and she keeps insisting I have to reread her posts. This is a discussion about the state and path of FFXIV. If she doesn't agree with my opinion, then fine. But she needs to accept I don't agree with hers and move on without making up lies about me.
    Pot meeting kettle?

    Nowhere does she even insinuate she thinks "too highly of her opinions." You seemingly have just taken offense no one agrees with your arguments. Bear in mind, this whole argument started because you insisted Eureka should have the same ilvl as raiders and it's unfair raiders get the best gear. No one has made lies about you. You've simply taken many of us out of context and dialed our posts up to their extreme. In other words, stop making strawmen and either refute the posts or step off the platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Pot meeting kettle?

    Nowhere does she even insinuate she thinks "too highly." You seemingly have just taken offense no one agrees with your arguments. Bear in mind, this whole argument started because you insisted Eureka should have the same ilvl as raiders and it's unfair raiders get the best gear. No one has made lies about you. You've simply taken many of us out of context and dialed our posts up to their extreme. In other words, stop making strawmen and either refute the posts or stand off the platform.
    She has insisted repeatedly that I haven't read her posts. I take offensive at the personal attacks on my character. On this thread, I've been called a liar, troll and it's been insisted that I don't know what the basics of a PVE MMORPG and that I didn't read posts. Unless you can prove that I am a liar or a troll, or that I'm ignorant or I didn't read posts, then I'll acknowledge the accusations. Until then I'll call them lies and that's why I dial up their posts to the extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    She has insisted repeatedly that I haven't read her posts. I take offensive at the personal attacks on my character.
    For one, that isn't a personal attack. If your response barely acknowledges the post you're quoting, then logic dictates the person will assume you either didn't read what they said or you're chosen to ignore it. I made similar accusations when your response to me seemingly ignored most of what I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    For one, that isn't a personal attack. If your response barely acknowledges the post you're quoting, then logic dictates the person will assume you either didn't read what they said or you're chosen to ignore it. I made similar accusations when your response to me seemingly ignored most of what I said.
    You asked me to read your post again. You did not accuse me of not reading it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    If that is your interpretation of my posts, you ought to read them again.
    That was significantly politer than HyoMinPark.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    This confirms that you didn’t bother to read any of my past posts to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Your right, she didn't technically say her opinion is law. But she still thinks way way too highly of it.
    She keeps insisting I have to read her posts. Again and again and again. And she incorrectly prefaces her demands by insisting I didn't read her posts.
    I have dismissed her opinion and have moved on, and she keeps insisting I have to reread her posts. This is a discussion about the state and path of FFXIV. If she doesn't agree with my opinion, then fine. But she needs to accept I don't agree with hers and move on without making up lies about me.
    ....See, now you're saying that she's making up lies about you which is another strawman that was unneeded. The whole point of a discussion is to have a discussion about differing opinions. You can't just say one person needs to accept that you don't agree with it and move on. It's not an echo chamber and that's not how discussions work.

    Dismissing other people's opinions simply because you don't agree with them either is also a surefire way to make sure no one takes your own seriously either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    She has insisted repeatedly that I haven't read her posts. I take offensive at the personal attacks on my character.
    It's not an attack towards your character if you keep screaming that she's saying her opinions are law when she didn't state as much. You're not reading her posts then if that's your FIRST assumption instead of calmly rationalizing and refuting her points with points of your own. You're taking offense at every little thing that she's posting now simply because of a personal bias that you're starting to form that you don't like her.

    If someone kept screaming at me that they think I'm saying that my opinions are law, I'd certainly tell them to reread my posts again as well if that wasn't my intention at all.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 08-28-2018 at 11:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I've read your posts. Stop declaring I didn't read your posts. And stop telling me to read your posts again and again.
    YOUR OPINION IS NOT LAW. I did not find your opinion entirely of merit and dismissed parts of it. Stop interpreting that as me not reading your sacred texts.
    You know, people would actually take you seriously and probably not think that you didn't read their posts if you would stop taking something from 1 and dialing it up to 11, especially if you're going to give Hyo attitude and be condescending like that when she never said or implicated as such.

    Seriously, calm down.
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