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I am also quite sure that people did not say that housing itself was created to keep people subbed

the point of houses is to have more things to keep you subbed

It's the crux of alimdia's argument. And total BS, which is the whole reason I got drawn into a discussion with her in the first place.

About PVP:

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Please, go back and reread the end of my last post. I know it is a nuanced concept, but I really don't know how to explain my point any plainer. I am not now nor was I ever equating housing to pvp rewards. I merely brought that and other examples up as things you are not "paying real money for" and thus not automatically entitled to just by paying a sub. I mentioned it to counter a specific claim made by alimdia and was not applying it to the housing issue at large.

Also, for the record, I know exactly what was promised about housing and the consequences of Yoshida breaking that promise. I bought my first house back before the timer existed. I lost it when they implemented the auto-demos while I was on a break from the game due to getting married and moving to a different hemisphere. In spite of that, I still recognize the necessity of the demo timer and am strongly in favor of it. You suggest half a year would be a reasonable amount of time to demo a house, but how is that any less arbitrary than the time we have now? What makes it objectively better, other than being your opinion? Everyone has their own opinions about how long would be a good length, SE can't satisfy everyone. It's their call to make, and they settled on 45 days.