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  1. #11
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    Does this thread name and shame?!

    On topic; things change, go figure. Deal with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    At the very least, they could have made it something like 90 days rather than 45. Having 90 days is enough time to decide if you'll be coming back or not.
    45 is plenty time.
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    Why should it be name and shame? Yes my name is in it but its not like she used it to be angry at me or something. It was a bit strange to read it but I see nothing wrong with that. I mean in at least one topic I was once told by a poster how I suck because I dare to still have something so old in my signature and cant let go of it. Since the GM never told me its wrong to have it I just dont care to take it away because it is just one of that broken promises.

    Also 45 days is like 1 1/2 months of a break. In a game were they told us to take breaks if we grow bored and in a game were the patches take 3-4 months to release, its way too low. 90 days would be good because its the time between patches thus if people want to take breaks (like Yoshida said we should do) they can at least play something else between patches if they are bored (its not like every single house owner would always take a break between each patches) and if they dont come back for the new one then you can take their house away.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  3. #13
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    Relax, it was a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna-M View Post
    On topic; things change, go figure. Deal with it.
    Apparently not everything changes. SE still cuts corners on basically all content and takes hilariously convoluted solutions to simple problems. Like chocobo dying. Or non-instanced housing.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Apparently not everything changes. SE still cuts corners on basically all content and takes hilariously convoluted solutions to simple problems. Like chocobo dying. Or non-instanced housing.
    Never claimed or hinted EVERYTHING changes. I'm just saying - Just cause they said something (that was before personal housing mind you) almost 5 years ago now and it changed over time, this is shocking to people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna-M View Post
    Never claimed or hinted EVERYTHING changes. I'm just saying - Just cause they said something (that was before personal housing mind you) almost 5 years ago now and it changed over time, this is shocking to people?
    It wasn't actually 5 years ago. The things he promised didn't changed now. Personal housing was added in 2014, and was a total mess. And that houses getting destroyed was added in 2015.

    That's only 1 and 2 years after he made the promises.

    Also yes, people can change what they have said. However, it's bad reputation for Yoshi and SE and the playerbase will lose trust. You can change what you say - but you have to deal with the consquences. And when that means we will still point at that broken promisees years later, then you really messed up with that... but hey, you can change again what you have said ^^
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    Last edited by Tint; 08-23-2018 at 07:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Also yes, people can change what they have said.
    Unless it's a legally binding contract that can be enforced via law, which were invented precisely because people do not always keep true to their words. Just think how much money we could save in court cases if people never backed down on their words.

    To me, the quote just means that you should take everything Yoshi says with a grain of salt. And since he says a lot on a good day, it's no surprise people get salty quick.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    It wasn't actually 5 years ago. The things he promised didn't changed now.
    Quote is from 10/30/2013 and what i based on what I said almost 5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna-M View Post
    Quote is from 10/30/2013 and what i based on what I said almost 5 years.
    But the changes to housing were only 1 or 2 years after those promises were made. Kind of disingenuous to pretend these changes are recent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    But the changes to housing were only 1 or 2 years after those promises were made. Kind of disingenuous to pretend these changes are recent.
    A lot changes in a year particularly in the realm of business, and not to mention active players and subscribers. I'm pretty sure the complaints would be more worse in volume if SE stuck to their initial promise.

    Also before you make the argument instanced housing. That wouldn't go so well on their current system, not to mention for it to even work would require significantly cutting down on the different objects or items you can use in your house and potentially fixed placement of any objects. So you'd probably end up with housing that is equivalent to Runescape housing, only better graphics. Imagine storing potentially over a million instances?

    Sure SE probably should have never made that promise but, again, a lot changes in terms of business, and active players.
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