We Really Need To Talk About The State And Path Of FFXIV

[WhyAmIHere]

There's a very interesting correlation between some of the people getting up in arms over the supposed 'need' for raid gear to be exclusive and better than anything else on offer and the dubious party finder messages found in-game. I won't name any names for obvious reasons, though I'm sure attentive players can come to their own conclusions.

I thought it was odd that this thread was being heavily derailed by that particular talking point and that very few of the people talking about gear being 'devalued' were mentioning the much bigger concern that is people being boosted for gil and real world money where high end PvP and PvE content is concerned. Worse yet, account sharing is supposedly used for some of the harder content as it's impossible to carry someone through the extremely high end content in this game.

strictly speaking to eureka gear... isn't having a weapon, with a guaranteed 5 meld slots, rewarding enough? what more incentive is there?

I don't like that this just turned into a "Why do you need raider gear?" thread myself. I thought really hard about including that section of my post. But I had hoped it wouldn't get such a response. Just once...

when content disparity is mentioned, of course it'll be a hot issue to tackle. People want to feel, and should honestly be rewarded for the effort put into a thing.
the issue with this point specifically is the value of the time spent on the thing itself, and the things being compared aren't equal.

[Magic-Mal]

strictly speaking to eureka gear... isn't having a weapon, with a guaranteed 5 meld slots, rewarding enough? what more incentive is there?

In my opinion, it's not even enough incentive to even try to get the weapon. It's the fact that it will be garbage next month. Random crafter weapons will outclass the relic.

[WhyAmIHere]

In my opinion, it's not even enough incentive to even try to get the weapon. It's the fact that it will be garbage next month. Random crafter weapons will outclass the relic.

True, granted, but here's the rub: that's always the case. For the relic at least the hope is, at the end of the expansion, it'll be the best item to get... for the time. then 5.0 will come out and dungeon weapons will outshine the relic 100% of the time.

Gear is not static in this game, and thank the powers that be that that's the case.

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It'd be a lot more valuable as an incentive if it were released earlier. As it stands, 4.4 is very likely to go live within a month. I think there should have been more cosmetic rewards on offer in Pagos such as a mount and more minions.

I am in agreement with you there. I, along with so many others, have remarked on this. Heck I even made a thread about it myself here about the delay of Pagos. Granted my thread was mostly cynical, but... plenty of people are with you on how bad Pagos was / is in it's entirety.