So, how is Pagos?

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Having read through this really makes me worried. I've only been in a few times, and while the place was active, the parties were scarce. Second time in I waited 1 hour for party before abandoning. What's more worrying is that this seems to be something common.

And it will keep becoming common as more and more people give up. A good portion of the casual playerbase will try Pagos for a little bit, some may stick it out longer than others, but the grind becomes so much I don't see many wanting to bother, especially with 4.4 likely less than a month away. It doesn't help high levels have virtually no reason to help lower level players anymore. And even less of them enjoy Pagos. I know some who got their relic for their main and have no intention of ever touching Pagos again.

[Derio]

I eventually gave up, especially considering the weapon only upgrades to 370 which I already have one due to the 24 man trade in items. If Eureka is the last thing that launches in the patch cycles then doing the relic this expansion is not worth it. The relic was suppose to be used for me to catch up to the raiders, but with how Pagos is I am better off just waiting until the next patch or running some EX primals for a weapon.

There used to be a vast amount of options to progress in the relic questlines. With Eureka there is only 1 way. Eureka is in no way casual friendly and requires at most a 3 hour minimum to gain any noticeable progress outside of the challenge log.

I didnt mind diadem in 3.0 because despite it being the first open area fail, it was not tied to the relic questline.

If the point of Eureka was to push players away or push the casual playerbase into raiding, then I think they have succeeded in both.

[Gleipni]

The dev have to realised,they miserably failed on eureka,and even worse on pagos,dont know if the dev want to make the game crash and have peace or if they are really not doing it on purpose

[Kallera]

How is what? Oh that thing that requires me to slog through Anemos for an even bigger slog, all while pretending it is as interesting as ffxi?


Haven't touched it.

[Solarra]

Funny how Anemos was a bit dull yet people still made sure to complete all their sets and brag about how many weapons they upgrade through Pazuzu. Even if the content was easy, it still took a significant commitment of time to do all that so clearly Anemos was an experiment that succeeded. It was the perfect casual content, not to hard, but was worth logging for and burning up your time in.

Well I didn't do the bragging bit but I did go into Anemos quite a lot after getting my first relic and the dyeable gear. I'm not saying Anemos was perfect (I had plenty of issues with it before I joined the train) but I always felt my time in there was well spent and decently rewarded. I never had trouble getting groups and the train meant I could go in with low-level friends and help them level up.

So yes, despite this stage being far easier to complete than previous relics, I think you may be right about it working well as casual content. If Pagos had been similar, I'd probably be spending most of my time in there and working on a second or third weapon upgrade. As it is, I am level 23 and have no intention of going back unless significant changes are made. Considering they appear to have deliberately derailed the train, I'm not really expecting that to happen.

[Alucard135]

Padang is the true religion.

Amen. Padang is the true face of Pagos.

[AngelyLowell]

I really want to know if the devs tested Pagos hard.

Yesterday I spend 2 full lockout trying to spawn Louhi, with no success. In other words, it was SIX HOURS OF MY DAY trying to spawn him.

If leveling to 35 was not punishing enough....

[Dragoon4life]

Pagos needs the train. It’s horrible with out it. I hate it so much. chest drops are still bad too. And the lv20 FATE in not Soloable. I think the only way to get it changed is to just not do it.

[Dragoon4life]

Pagos needs the train. It’s horrible with out it. I hate it so much. chest drops are still bad too. And the lv20 bunny FATE in not Soloable. I think the only way to get it changed is to just not do it.

[Velhart]

Pagos needs the train. It’s horrible with out it. I hate it so much. chest drops are still bad too. And the lv20 bunny FATE in not Soloable. I think the only way to get it changed is to just not do it.

The train was not intentional. Pagos is working as intended. It is just not fun.