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[KarstenS]

No I don't. Gil isnt winning anything. I guess I've payed to win for years if we gonna say retainers is pay to win lmao.

Aside from teleporting what do you guys spend your gil on that you wouldn't be able to craft?

On the day when patch 4.4 get released, as always, I will burn alot of gil (for some I know it takes between 80 and 100 million of Gil) to overmeld my crafter gear with the new required stats to be able to craft the 4 star recipes. Overmeldung eats alot of materia. 50-100 fails for slot 4 and 5 in every piece of gear are sadly a normal thing in this game.

I will also buy some mats I have no time to gather it myself, which I had to throw away because of no storage space available, as I need to get my battle gear for Alphascape Savage ready as fast as possible. With my current new group we plan to finish Alphascape Savage within the first three weeks, so I will also spend alot of Gil to overmeld this too.

New bufffood and pots are also incoming. I have both specialists ready for this. But right after the beginning, I will not have the time to gather all mats for it.

When my own preparation is done, I can start to produce stuff to sell. At this point I do minimize the amount of gil I spend for mats. But there is sometimes stuff you can only get for tomes or other currencies than gil, which I also would buy with gil from the market board, when the time needed to collect it is to much for me.

When you only play casual in this game, than gil is not really winning much for you. But when you play competitive, Gil is a thing and so additional retainers are an advantage.

Btw: I also needed alot of gil to be successfull at the "Shirogane Savage house buying" run. And finally I got the most expensive size L plot around 15 mins after the servers gone online.

[Luna-M]

On the day when patch 4.4 get released, as always, I will burn alot of gil (for some I know it takes between 80 and 100 million of Gil) to overmeld my crafter gear with the new required stats to be able to craft the 4 star recipes. Overmeldung eats alot of materia. 50-100 fails for slot 4 and 5 in every piece of gear are sadly a normal thing in this game.

I will also buy some mats I have no time to gather it myself, which I had to throw away because of no storage space available, as I need to get my battle gear for Alphascape Savage ready as fast as possible. With my current new group we plan to finish Alphascape Savage within the first three weeks, so I will also spend alot of Gil to overmeld this too.

New bufffood and pots are also incoming. I have both specialists ready for this. But right after the beginning, I will not have the time to gather all mats for it.

When my own preparation is done, I can start to produce stuff to sell. At this point I do minimize the amount of gil I spend for mats. But there is sometimes stuff you can only get for tomes or other currencies than gil, which I also would buy with gil from the market board, when the time needed to collect it is to much for me.

When you only play casual in this game, than gil is not really winning much for you. But when you play competitive, Gil is a thing and so additional retainers are an advantage.

All you stated is just taking the lazy way. You could easily just gather all the stuff you buy on patch. That you chose to buy all materia and material to craft on patchday is on you. Many crafters like myself already have 100s of materia saved up for months of doing weeklies, scribs and spiritbonding.

Btw: I also needed alot of gil to be successfull at the "Shirogane Savage house buying" run. And finally I got the most expensive size L plot around 15 mins after the servers gone online.

I said after getting your house Gil is little to no to use.

For the record the cost itself doesn't bother me but I was saying mainly for others that are affected by it but this is news. I was under the impression that the 5$ premium COVERED the additional retainer + Saddle bag expansion monthly... so you're saying its gonna be 5$ + 2 $ so 7$ for an additional retainer? Are you sure? Like I know it says in the Premium service you get an additional retainer but does it mention that it only unlocks the option to purchase one? Because the wording leads one to believe that you simply gain it automatically. This would be great to drill on.

According to the App FAQ for $5 you get a additional retainer for FREE and access to the saddlebag and all other premium features. People are confusing a mistranslated LL from a while ago where it was incorrectly stated that you unlock a additional slot to hire for $2 on mogstation, this is false.

[KarstenS]

All you stated is just taking the lazy way. You could easily just gather all the stuff you buy on patch.

You already know which materials we need? I guess not. And with only 2 retainers, there is not enough space to store even the half of the materials we have in this game.

So when you have saved all of them, than you have, unlike me, paid retainers. So you have an (paid) advantage as I do not have the storage space to do this.

Is it so hard for you to see the point?

That you chose to buy all materia and material to craft on patchday is on you.

I also save materia. But they are always not enough. With the crafter gear of patch 4.2 I lost around 150 materias to just one piece of gear caused by our RNGenesus. And I fully overmeld the 12 pieces except main and offhand.

[Luna-M]

You already know which materials we need?

Of course not but i'm taking into account to previous patches where materials been gathered by unspoiled/tomes. So It is possible to farm these for free.

So when you have saved all of them, than you have, unlike me, paid retainers. So you have an (paid) advantage as I do not have the storage space to do this.

Is it so hard for you to see the point?

Cause I, like many other don't believe in that having the ABILITY to sell more is PAY TO WIN.
It's okey though, wouldn't be fun if everyone agreed on everything <3

Also, now days you can have 999 per material, you have access to 2 retainers and a saddlebag. I'm sorry if you use your retainer to stockpile your mats and still running out? You're doing something wrong.


You sound you are a semi experienced crafter, then you should know you don't need to craft the top stuff on day 1 cause of the price wars between crafters. You probably lose more gil (if you chose to spend it) on day 1 than take your time and sell once people price cut for millions of gil during patch week.

[KarstenS]

You sound you are a semi experienced crafter, then you should know you don't need to craft the top stuff on day 1 cause of the price wars between crafters.

Not for the price war. But for my own use. In a side note of my earlier posts you will find the reason