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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    though being able to send retainers out while on the go would have been nice >.>
    While this would been really nice that was never advertised.

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    I didn’t want another discord type app. I wanted to be able to talk with all of the FC people when I wasn’t online and they were. We use discord, but not all of the fam wants it, so we were hoping this was gonna let us stay in contact. It’s a very sad day.
    May I ask why? That seem to me like .... odd. Discord is the the standard messaging plattform for communicating in text and voice. I used to believe it being a TS3 until i realised you could text with people.

    I often hear this complaint from PS4 players who for some reason only wanna sit on PS Messenger or Party chat.
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna-M View Post
    May I ask why? That seem to me like .... odd. Discord is the the standard messaging plattform for communicating in text and voice. I used to believe it being a TS3 until i realised you could text with people.

    I often hear this complaint from PS4 players who for some reason only wanna sit on PS Messenger or Party chat.
    I don't know about the person you responded to but personally although I have Discord, it barely gets used (I'm on PS). Any of my FC friends I need to stay in contact with we can do it through other stuff such as WhatsApp, PS Messenger App or FB etc. I mean there is little need to use yet another medium to communicate you know when there is so many already. If the FFXIV App let you speak with players in real time that are online in the game, that would be amazing but it seems a bit of a pipe dream at the moment.
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  3. #163
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    The sad part is that NA and EU gave it low star ratings but the JP players gave it much better ones, so their version sits at over 4 out of 5 stars. Lets take a guess whom they will be listening to. Do the japanese players dont have any other way to chat that such an app could be received so positive?
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    The sad part is that NA and EU gave it low star ratings but the JP players gave it much better ones, so their version sits at over 4 out of 5 stars. Lets take a guess whom they will be listening to. Do the japanese players dont have any other way to chat that such an app could be received so positive?
    My understanding is the JP wanted this so not surprised over that at all. Only app i know jp usually stick to is LINE. I don't think Discord is really big over in Japan.
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  5. #165
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    So you can only sell 1 item or buy 1 item once per day, unless you purchase the coins.

    Outside of that the app IMO is a complete waste.

    But if people in Japan are going to buy thousands of moogle coins and pay an additional 5$ a month for it. I am fine with the app considering it doesnt do much and I wont be using an app that has very little features and how discord is far superior.
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  6. #166
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    A lot of people bash the chat app but assume other communication venues aren't being used, and this is actually a fantastic way to stay in touch with friends in-game. FB is a good if harsh example, it relies on your real name being used and other contact information, I can see people shying away from using that to contact people from an online game. I don't need that sort of thing and I've most of my in-game friends on discord, but I can see why some people who be thrilled over the chat functionality.
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  7. #167
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    Lubu Mykono
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    A lot of people bash the chat app but assume other communication venues aren't being used, and this is actually a fantastic way to stay in touch with friends in-game. FB is a good if harsh example, it relies on your real name being used and other contact information, I can see people shying away from using that to contact people from an online game. I don't need that sort of thing and I've most of my in-game friends on discord, but I can see why some people who be thrilled over the chat functionality.
    We have Discord for third party communication, raids and holding events.
    We have better ways to spend money than open access to the market like on subscriptions and actual in-game shops.
    We have better ways to manage items and storage e.g. a few minutes in game.

    It's pretty clear it's a cash grab. Apart from the teleportation, that was worth having on my phone for about two minutes.
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  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lubu_Mykono View Post
    We have Discord for third party communication, raids and holding events.
    Is everyone on discord and willing to share even that much communications details outside of the game? I use discord myself, you'll notice I said as much in my post. But I can see why some people wouldn't want to hop in. Is Discord as popular in Japan, also? Because that could help explain the rate disparity.

    And mind you, that part was the only thing I played Devil's Advocate for. I agree with you about the rest of it. Going to get my emote when it hits and that'll be that.
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    A lot of people bash the chat app but assume other communication venues aren't being used, and this is actually a fantastic way to stay in touch with friends in-game. FB is a good if harsh example, it relies on your real name being used and other contact information, I can see people shying away from using that to contact people from an online game. I don't need that sort of thing and I've most of my in-game friends on discord, but I can see why some people who be thrilled over the chat functionality.
    But you also need to share your FF14 informations to log into this app. (So is it secure or can it happen that someone just gets your ID and password from that?) Also you need a smartphone with constant internet connection to use it, thus if you use an older model you are kinda out of it because you can only chat with people that are also using the app. Have maybe one or two people without it and you still need to plan it inside the game too.

    Discord might not be perfect, but you can have it on a phone and on pc thus you might get all of the people in it.

    For me its just a problem that we have a WoW app that was completely for free and older and that still could connect to the game and let people chat with ingame players. So I kinda wonder how a newer app cant do that.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  10. #170
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    I legit don't care enough about the app to keep playing devil's advocate. It's really not hard to find ways to poke holes at this thing.

    What gets me the most is that you can't switch characters after you signed in the one time. Like, really?
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