The conpainon app

[Cylla]

Yeah this app is mostly definitely a cash grab, I never had any intention of using it for anything other than chatting anyway! But even the one thing I want it for? It's not even useful for that! The way they described it implied (to me) that I would be able to engage in the in-game FC chat with my entire FC that was currently logged in! Instead it only allows you to talk to people that also have the app and create group chats. For that we may as well just keep using discord! It has more features and it's free on top of that. I wanted to be able to talk to all of my FC including the ones that don't have discord with the app but alas, that's not the case. I messed with it for maybe 10 minutes and immediately deleted it off my phone.

I was well aware before hand that they were going to try and charge just to use the MB part of it. Stupid, just beyond stupid, but I had hoped they'd change their stance on being money grabbers and make the app free. Trust me, it didn't get my hopes up or become a let down when it released having to pay to use everything. MB was the only thing I cared about with the app so yeah, it all good, get to keep space on my phone!

[splinter1545]

Oh god this again. When are people going to understand having extra retainers and a saddlebag Is.Not.Pay-to-win.

Okay, saddlebags might not be, but the retainers definitely are. More retainers mean you get more slots to sell items. More slots to sell items means you can get into many more markets. More markets mean more gil. You also have the luxury of being able to fail or not profit from being in certain markets since you have footholds in other to make up for it, which someone with only 2 retainers don't have the benefit of doing, meaning they have to be more cautious in their investments.

Just cause it isn't battle content, doesn't mean that you aren't getting an advantage over others. Yes, gil is almost useless, but it's the principal that's the main concern, not the end result.

[Risu0042]

Okay, saddlebags might not be, but the retainers definitely are. More retainers mean you get more slots to sell items. More slots to sell items means you can get into many more markets. More markets mean more gil. You also have the luxury of being able to fail or not profit from being in certain markets since you have footholds in other to make up for it, which someone with only 2 retainers don't have the benefit of doing, meaning they have to be more cautious in their investments.

Just cause it isn't battle content, doesn't mean that you aren't getting an advantage over others. Yes, gil is almost useless, but it's the principal that's the main concern, not the end result.

You left out the part where you have more retainers to send on ventures as well. the more retainers means the more items you can collect passively.

[Wiccan026]

Does anyone know why I can't see the app in the google play store, one of my friends said the app was live but I don''t see it anywhere.

[Luna-M]

Okay, saddlebags might not be, but the retainers definitely are. More retainers mean you get more slots to sell items. More slots to sell items means you can get into many more markets. More markets mean more gil. You also have the luxury of being able to fail or not profit from being in certain markets since you have footholds in other to make up for it, which someone with only 2 retainers don't have the benefit of doing, meaning they have to be more cautious in their investments.

Just cause it isn't battle content, doesn't mean that you aren't getting an advantage over others. Yes, gil is almost useless, but it's the principal that's the main concern, not the end result.

You left out the part where you have more retainers to send on ventures as well. the more retainers means the more items you can collect passively.

So tell me, what will I do with all this Pay to Winned gil?

This whole argument its pay to win is so funny to me. Allow me...

• I have more saddlebag space = P2W

• I can sell (in theory) and gather materials (after leveling said retainer up, not taking into account i can buy a Lv skip for € on Mogstation) = P2W

• I can (in theory) get more gil quicker than someone who don't have premium plan = P2W.

Jesus christ...

Does anyone know why I can't see the app in the google play store, one of my friends said the app was live but I don''t see it anywhere.

Most likely it not supported by your device, then it won't show up.

Try open this link from your phone/device:

EU:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....ffxivcomapp_e

NA:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....ffxivcomapp_n

[Hamada]

Okay, saddlebags might not be, but the retainers definitely are. More retainers mean you get more slots to sell items. More slots to sell items means you can get into many more markets. More markets mean more gil. You also have the luxury of being able to fail or not profit from being in certain markets since you have footholds in other to make up for it, which someone with only 2 retainers don't have the benefit of doing, meaning they have to be more cautious in their investments.

Just cause it isn't battle content, doesn't mean that you aren't getting an advantage over others. Yes, gil is almost useless, but it's the principal that's the main concern, not the end result.

Exactly but the thing here is, I really did not want to go down what is a pay to win debate since what I saw from the past, each side is not going to convince the other. I really like it if statements like "with a dumb logic like that" be left out, since I can easily turn around and say the same thing for the counter argument.

My main point I want to focus on, especially with yoshi-P posting in this thread is to validate all these fees. Where I stand, the game should be over funded off the sub fee alone. The mog station is overpriced, the retainers is overpriced, the app fee is over priced, the microtransactions is just a cash grab at this point. Why... WHY does this game has so many fees when the quality is not there? It is not the players fault the game is more expensive to run because they do not want to address the 1.0 code this game is built on. I really would loved to see this all explained outside "we will release the app soon".

[Luna-M]

Exactly but the thing here is, I really did not want to go down what is a pay to win debate since what I saw from the past, each side is not going to convince the other. I really like it if statements like "with a dumb logic like that" be left out, since I can easily turn around and say the same thing for the counter argument.

My main point I want to focus on, especially with yoshi-P posting in this thread is to validate all these fees. Where I stand, the game should be over funded off the sub fee alone. The mog station is overpriced, the retainers is overpriced, the app fee is over priced, the microtransactions is just a cash grab at this point. Why... WHY does this game has so many fees when the quality is not there? It is not the players fault the game is more expensive to run because they do not want to address the 1.0 code this game us built on. I really would loved to see this all explained outside "we will release the app soon".

Because it most likely out of Yoshidas control or decision to make the app in the first place. It probably higher ups pulling the strings, unless it common with this sort of schemes in japanese culture in a sub based MMO - I know it not too uncommon in all korean F2P games.

[Sigma-Astra]

My main point I want to focus on, especially with yoshi-P posting in this thread is to validate all these fees. Where I stand, the game should be over funded off the sub fee alone. The mog station is overpriced, the retainers is overpriced, the app fee is over priced, the microtransactions is just a cash grab at this point. Why... WHY does this game has so many fees when the quality is not there? It is not the players fault the game is more expensive to run because they do not want to address the 1.0 code this game is built on. I really would loved to see this all explained outside "we will release the app soon".

It's CEO greed, simple as that really.

[Hamada]

It's CEO greed, simple as that really.

Because it most likely out of Yoshidas control or decision to make the app in the first place. It probably higher ups pulling the strings, unless it common with this sort of schemes in japanese culture in a sub based MMO - I know it not too uncommon in all korean F2P games.

And why aren't more people speaking out on this? why are some accepting this? The thing is I do "speak with my wallet" I do not buy this overpriced crap, but that does not seem to be working.

[Kurando]

You know what's going to happen. People will either accept what the app is and pay for premium (whether it's voluntery or no choice), or not enough players will sub to it and SE will have no choice but to take drastic action. Additional space should not be locked behind extra costs (unless it's a retainer) as everyone has been crying for more inventory for a long time, yet we get a saddlebag that is no good in instances....

I really hope SE pay attention to all the feedback they are getting about the app.