Rathalos EX

[BroodingFicus]

Yeah this has been my experience too. I did normal on my BLM last night and then went to party finder looking for groups.

A. They were all already demanding you have clears and threatening a kick if you die.
B. Every group was either only accepting four tanks or three tanks and one healer.

If the whistle isn't something you can trade between characters, probably means I'll be stuck trying to gather my own group because the community is already pushing out most classes and its only been 24 hours.

[AxlStream]

Wouldn't be a problem if people were remotely competent. Just saying.

[Driskus]

Managed to get 2 clears so far as a WHM. One was standard 2 DPS, 1 healer, 1 tank, the other was 1 DPS, 1, healer, 2 tanks. Its definitely less awful with more tanks since they don't die almost immediately after getting hit.

The hitboxes are a mess. Move far out of the way only to get killed, and then re-appear far out of the area where the dragon attacked. Happened to almost every group I ran with, even in normal.

[SigmaOZ]

Not to mention Rathalos EX is not a real Extreme Trial as it only allows for light parties of four players, the EX in the name feels really loose!...


I would have liked for this one to be a real Extreme Trial for a full party to at least be worth of the name but maybe the rewards are just not up for it!...


I agree in that the armors are pretty ugly and the mount while majestic is a simple looking dragon, it should have a glow effect like any other Extreme Trial mount, if you have any of them then you know their looks are far above the rest, specially the falcons from Heavensward's EX trials!...


In the end, being the unusual trial this thing is I believe it will get easier and easier as time goes by, the good thing about this collaboration event is that it's permanent unlike previous ones and maybe that's a reason why it takes so many clears to get the prize!...

[MomomiMomi]

Not to mention Rathalos EX is not a real Extreme Trial as it only allows for light parties of four players, the EX in the name feels really loose!...


I would have liked for this one to be a real Extreme Trial for a full party to at least be worth of the name but maybe the rewards are just not up for it!...


I agree in that the armors are pretty ugly and the mount while majestic is a simple looking dragon, it should have a glow effect like any other Extreme Trial mount, if you have any of them then you know their looks are far above the rest, specially the falcons from Heavensward's EX trials!...

But then it wouldn't be Monster Hunter, which generally only allows a party of 4. And making it glow would probably be the most ridiculous thing they could have done. Rathalos doesn't glow.

[kikix12]

Even doing the fight one time is kind of exhausting on my eyes because there isn't much of a break in the fight, he is constantly targeting and if you aren't staring at him you'll miss it and cause KOs.

If the fight doesn't offer downtime and you need it, make your own. I don't think people will worry too much if you will run around for a second or two to blink like mad, just so you 'dodge' his attacks without even knowing they are coming. So yes. I may be missing something, but as far as I can see, as long as you strafe around him you should be fine from just about any attack. Though I may be wrong. But I'm sure you can make an 'opening' yourself.

That being said, the fight does have 'downtime'. When he is...well...down. At that time it's all about barraging him with hits which I'm sure you can do with your eyes closed like most experienced players would in-between their cooldowns.

Not to mention Rathalos EX is not a real Extreme Trial as it only allows for light parties of four players, the EX in the name feels really loose!...

It is a very much 'real' extreme. The fact that it have only four people makes it even more extreme, not less.

The reason why there are parties of eight in extreme trials is because Naoki Yoshida thinks that an extreme trial with only four people WILL BE TOO DIFFICULT due to a single mistake of the healer causing an unrecoverable wipe. This battle is very much like that, except for the fact that the auto-revival and potions makes everyone a self-sufficient, decreasing that risk to a point.


Also, a difficult four-man content is what the players asked and what the developers (as I said above) did NOT want to do. So this being a four-man is the players victory. Saying that it's not a real extreme for that is ignorant of what extreme means.

[Nariel]

Hey I find the 3 death limit pretty Extreme myself, considering how much of a d**k he can be if he start focusing a single player for a long time.

No glow please, its a rathalos not an elder dragon :-(.

Just sayin' after 3 down with a classic team (2 dps + 1 heal + 1 tank) we manage to see a chest with poogie and orchestrion scroll so the mount may be in it too so the "50 down to get the mount" may become "wow that floor kisser got the mount OMG".

[Miste]

If the fight doesn't offer downtime and you need it, make your own. I don't think people will worry too much if you will run around for a second or two to blink like mad, just so you 'dodge' his attacks without even knowing they are coming. So yes. I may be missing something

Well, like I explained it is a personal problem.

I have issues with my eyes sometimes and constantly staring tires me badly. I understand what you mean, but I'm also not the type to just stop attacking.

I always want to do my best even if it is a bit taxing on me so I likely won't be farming it as much since it is just how I am that I would stare like that so I can keep attacking ;-;

[RiyahArp]

It shows the weaknesses of hard four man content, unfortunately. Tanks outclass any DPS job in it since they can absorb hits much better, and there is no hard enrage. I feel the healer has the highest burden in the first part of the fight, due to the high outgoing damage and the need to watch other players, health, and mob mechanics. Next would be melee, then ranged dps, then tanks. The carting mechanic is the only way it remains playable. Imagine if the single healer couldn't cart back.

The dodging is all right, but as someone said earlier, it can make for a tiring fight depending on the job. I don't particularly find it all that fun to do, and am a little annoyed at them gating half the rewards behind the ex version. I would like special events to be fun things players do together, not things that cause people to backbite or be at odds with each other, and hard level content like this is more work than fun for me.

[Saraphin]

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whoa. whoa. wait a moment. The armor isn't ugly. yes, the female set leaves something to be desired, but the Male Top is very nice.

I don't want it to glow, i don't think it would look good with a glow.

However, the fact that it's 4 man and not 8 man ups the difficulty level and I enjoy it. I've gone into 8man stuff, gotten frustrated and not gone back for months. This? we laughed, we focused, we hissed and spat, but it wasn't as frustrating as one would think because we started trying to figure out the tells and we eventually did. we learned mechanics and we're a lot more ready to go in again.