Rathalos EX

[Nora_of_Mira]

I don't mind the fight and the dodging is just something you have to get used to so I don't feel it is hard to get a clear at least.

But personally the thing I don't like is that you literally have to stare at the screen for the entire fight with little to no breaks and the longer it takes the more taxing it is.

If you blink at the wrong time you might end up getting hit if he targets you....and I really think that that is a bit too much.

Even doing the fight one time is kind of exhausting on my eyes because there isn't much of a break in the fight, he is constantly targeting and if you aren't staring at him you'll miss it and cause KOs.

Makes the fight hard to farm for me which kind of makes it not super fun either since I like farming stuff usually.

what game are you playing where you are not looking at the screen?

[Miste]

what game are you playing where you are not looking at the screen?

I think you misunderstood something here....?

Looking at the screen is one thing.

Staring at it trying not to blink for fear of getting hit is another.

The dodge times are very tight if you don't react immediately you're going to get hit and you never know when he is going to attack you, which is fine since that is the style of the fight, it just isn't the usual FFXIV style which is scripted mechanics and/or small periods during a fight where you actually need to watch for random telepgraphs or pointed attacks. IE O7S Guardian Magitek Beam (he uses it at scripted times so you eventually learn when you need to watch for it instead of constantly staring at the boss the entire fight afraid of if he'll aim it at you)

I just personally find it hard on the eyes to stare and keep my eyes on the boss at all times so I don't die since I am not used to that style much in this game.

[Nora_of_Mira]

I think you misunderstood something here....?

Looking at the screen is one thing.

Staring at it trying not to blink for fear of getting hit is another.

Maybe I just do what you're saying naturally because what you describe sounds unnatural to me. To continue with O7S, i had to keep a sharp eye on the boss at all times to hit my positionals as he turns his facing like 1000x. And while learning the fight, i have to pay attention to my Jumps so they dont turn into suicides.

[Miste]

Maybe I just do what you're saying naturally because what you describe sounds unnatural to me. To continue with O7S, i had to keep a sharp eye on the boss at all times to hit my positionals as he turns his facing like 1000x. And while learning the fight, i have to pay attention to my Jumps so they dont turn into suicides.

Ah, you play melee jobs. Yeah, that might be why it is more natural for you.

I main healers mostly. I don't really play melees (I'm not very good at them).

I did the fight on RDM which I am also a bit less comfortable on so doing the rotation and trying to do decent damage while staring constantly at the boss trying not to blink in case I miss him turn at me was just a bit taxing on my eyes.

All in all I think it is a good fight and it was exciting. I just have some eye trouble when it comes to possibly farming it much, just a bit too much staring to avoid his attacks quick enough.

[SigmaOZ]

Not to mention Rathalos EX is not a real Extreme Trial as it only allows for light parties of four players, the EX in the name feels really loose!...


I would have liked for this one to be a real Extreme Trial for a full party to at least be worth of the name but maybe the rewards are just not up for it!...


I agree in that the armors are pretty ugly and the mount while majestic is a simple looking dragon, it should have a glow effect like any other Extreme Trial mount, if you have any of them then you know their looks are far above the rest, specially the falcons from Heavensward's EX trials!...


In the end, being the unusual trial this thing is I believe it will get easier and easier as time goes by, the good thing about this collaboration event is that it's permanent unlike previous ones and maybe that's a reason why it takes so many clears to get the prize!...

[MomomiMomi]

Not to mention Rathalos EX is not a real Extreme Trial as it only allows for light parties of four players, the EX in the name feels really loose!...


I would have liked for this one to be a real Extreme Trial for a full party to at least be worth of the name but maybe the rewards are just not up for it!...


I agree in that the armors are pretty ugly and the mount while majestic is a simple looking dragon, it should have a glow effect like any other Extreme Trial mount, if you have any of them then you know their looks are far above the rest, specially the falcons from Heavensward's EX trials!...

But then it wouldn't be Monster Hunter, which generally only allows a party of 4. And making it glow would probably be the most ridiculous thing they could have done. Rathalos doesn't glow.

[kikix12]

Even doing the fight one time is kind of exhausting on my eyes because there isn't much of a break in the fight, he is constantly targeting and if you aren't staring at him you'll miss it and cause KOs.

If the fight doesn't offer downtime and you need it, make your own. I don't think people will worry too much if you will run around for a second or two to blink like mad, just so you 'dodge' his attacks without even knowing they are coming. So yes. I may be missing something, but as far as I can see, as long as you strafe around him you should be fine from just about any attack. Though I may be wrong. But I'm sure you can make an 'opening' yourself.

That being said, the fight does have 'downtime'. When he is...well...down. At that time it's all about barraging him with hits which I'm sure you can do with your eyes closed like most experienced players would in-between their cooldowns.

Not to mention Rathalos EX is not a real Extreme Trial as it only allows for light parties of four players, the EX in the name feels really loose!...

It is a very much 'real' extreme. The fact that it have only four people makes it even more extreme, not less.

The reason why there are parties of eight in extreme trials is because Naoki Yoshida thinks that an extreme trial with only four people WILL BE TOO DIFFICULT due to a single mistake of the healer causing an unrecoverable wipe. This battle is very much like that, except for the fact that the auto-revival and potions makes everyone a self-sufficient, decreasing that risk to a point.


Also, a difficult four-man content is what the players asked and what the developers (as I said above) did NOT want to do. So this being a four-man is the players victory. Saying that it's not a real extreme for that is ignorant of what extreme means.

[Saraphin]

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whoa. whoa. wait a moment. The armor isn't ugly. yes, the female set leaves something to be desired, but the Male Top is very nice.

I don't want it to glow, i don't think it would look good with a glow.

However, the fact that it's 4 man and not 8 man ups the difficulty level and I enjoy it. I've gone into 8man stuff, gotten frustrated and not gone back for months. This? we laughed, we focused, we hissed and spat, but it wasn't as frustrating as one would think because we started trying to figure out the tells and we eventually did. we learned mechanics and we're a lot more ready to go in again.

[AdventZero]

My problem with it is that I'm a gunlance user in MH and my play style isn't about dodging but snap blocking and counter attacking. So being put into a fight with a Rathalos as a shield wielding PLD but being unable to really block anything with said shield was a bit off putting. One half of my brain was saying "Bring it!" as I stood my ground, and the other half was saying "No, don't! Shields in this game are just decorations, they don't really work!!" as I tried, and failed most of the time, to run out of the way. I'm sure I'll get use to it, but it feels really clunky to me at the minute.

[AxlStream]

Psssst damage in this fight doesn't matter. Doesn't bring him down any faster. Feel free to spam 1 while he's up in the hair.