Friction between casuals and raiders - One Lala's weird trick, GMs hate her!

[KaldeaSahaline]

I don't think it's biased. 100% serious play isn't any more correct than a casual run through a dungeon. As long as no one is actively trying to sabotage the run, no one is really doing anything wrong. This applies outside of the game too. In work or school, people not giving their best can be a hindrance, but in a recreation like sports? That's a really wide category which can range from being as serious as a job to completely laid back. Duty Finder is akin to going to the park and trying to setup a game with random people. It's not going to be the World Cup. You can't necessarily expect everyone to be on the same page.

I disagree. I believe that in team play (be it, work, gaming, sports, anything) if you PURPOSELY set out to not do your best you are being disrespectful to those people counting on you. Obviously, in recreational gaming the stakes are stupidly low, but that doesn't remove the premise. If you join that pick up game with the intent of "relaxing" or "half-assing" it, you're toxic as far as I am concerned.

I treat others how I would want to be treated, and that is by performing the best I can. If I want to slack off (and trust me at times I do), I stick to solo content or play some JRPGs on the couch (like my current xenogears playthrough) because I wouldn't want to burden others with my lack of energy/drive, etc.

You could say that the whole point of a video game is to relax.

I've actually had this discussion many times before. I do not play video games to relax. I play videos games because they engage me. I have a dry job where I do big data analysis, meetings all freaking day, and other boring stuff, that's where I relax.

You and I are a perfect example of this friction existing and being difficult to fix.