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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    That was for the thread you linked. They're not demons or dragons or reptiles, if anything the only headcanon from that thread thats sorta plausible would be Allagan experiments but they'd end up being manmade humanoid mammals vs. regular ol humanoid mammals... and even then it'd be kiiiiinda pushing it since Au Ra as we know them existed during the Allagan empire (Odin minion + HoH spoilers).
    I've never seen any mammals with horns, scales and serpentine tails. Granted this isn't Earth we're talking about so who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I've never seen any mammals with horns, scales and serpentine tails. Granted this isn't Earth we're talking about so who knows?
    Pangolins are the world's sole example of a scaly mammal, so I like to think Au Ra are something sorta like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    (Horns)


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    I meant all on the same animal

    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Pangolins are the world's sole example of a scaly mammal, so I like to think Au Ra are something sorta like that.
    I wanted to add that on that comment, but was on my phone at the time. They really need to revamp the mobile version so we can edit.
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    Last edited by Joven; 07-28-2018 at 04:14 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I wanted to add that on that comment, but was on my phone at the time. They really need to revamp the mobile version so we can edit.
    Just use the full version :3 Works well on the phone~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I meant all on the same animal
    Maybe there isn't a real-world animal with all three, but that still means it's plausible that a mammal could have evolved all three in the right conditions.

    In any case, the game has so many hybrid creatures that it's not necessary to make that argument in the first place. Chimeras, gryphons, lamiae, "owlbears", winged horses.... many of them are a mix of mammal and reptile parts (birds technically being specialised reptiles as well).

    Interestingly most of those get traced back to Allagan experiments, according to the lorebook. Gryphons seem to be considered natural. As discussed earlier, you could theorise that Au Ra have "unnatural" origins as well, although there may have been lore contradictions to it. We know the Ixals are of Allagan origin, and juding from the lamiae on Azys Lla, the Ananta are as well. (I saw a theory once that the original inspiration of Garuda might have been an Au Ra woman, which could add up with the possibility of an Allagan origin for them.)

    Of course, in-game understanding of taxonomy is still developing, with creatures grouped in ways that don't correlate with our modern understanding. eg. 'cloudkin', flying creatures, mostly birds but including mammalian bats and a fishlike monster, also the arbitrary split with 'scalekin' that includes things like ziz and archaeornis - eventually they'll probably work out, like in our world, that there isn't actually a dividing line between the two (and that bats are flying beastkin).

    Then again, maybe anyone who tries to develop a better system gets as far as classifying the hybrids, and gives up.

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    Bonus Wiki-trivia round! You know that bright-coloured lizardy thing that's an elite mark on the Azim Steppe? I spotted it on the reptile 'family tree'.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 07-28-2018 at 12:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    I've never seen any mammals with horns, scales and serpentine tails. Granted this isn't Earth we're talking about so who knows?
    (Horns)


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    Some examples of what SE obviously understands it's player base wants.






    They would not spend the time creating gear/ emotes that they were certain would not be bought. For crying out loud that's an actual Magic girl outfit and dance in the songbird gear and emote. Goth lolita dresses, angel/ demon jackets, prince and princess clothes, the Nehza gear, a beg emote.... The list goes on and on. FFXIV is not a world where character races are beastly, the fact that their optional items would be affected by this as well tells you all you need to know as to why this would not happen here. How long did we have to wait for male bunny chief gear? I don't see Bangaa being squeezed into Edda's dress doing the songbird dance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    I don't see Bangaa being squeezed into Edda's dress doing the songbird dance.
    I never knew how much I wanted to actually see this happen until now.
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    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    I don't see Bangaa being squeezed into Edda's dress doing the songbird dance.
    You lack imagination. A beastial race might not fit in with society. They might not be able to wear certain things or their version might be torn and ill-fitting. They might attempt the first few steps of a dance, stumble a bit, then fall on their butt, switch to their race dance, or give up with a sigh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    You lack imagination. A beastial race might not fit in with society. They might not be able to wear certain things or their version might be torn and ill-fitting. They might attempt the first few steps of a dance, stumble a bit, then fall on their butt, switch to their race dance, or give up with a sigh.
    And that would cause out cry due to a certain race not having access to what others have. It's not lacking imagination, it's keeping in mind what could and would happen if any race was excluded from any current or future glamours/ emotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    And that would cause out cry due to a certain race not having access to what others have. It's not lacking imagination, it's keeping in mind what could and would happen if any race was excluded from any current or future glamours/ emotes.
    First of all there were two options I gave. So you didn't actually read.

    Second the people who lack imagination don't have to play that race. Such a race would not be for their ilk.
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