Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

[AmeliaVerves]

I don't think people who say things like this realize how often they are grouped with people who are parsing and legitimately never know about it.

Literally this.
I don't know how things stand on NA or JP clusters but on Chaos I would guess around 50% of the PC players at least parse occasionally and even more parsed at least once just to see what it's all about. Thing is, people just don't even care too much about other party members. In 90% of the time it is basically just to see how well they perform themself and their friends who are with them.

Sadly the other 10% where people move out of their way and confront others negativly with their numbers or even go so far to activly harrass are the only times we can be sure parsers were running. So it's hard to tell actual numbers and compare them to make a point.

Late, but they do exist:

We have some of those on Chaos as well. While I could join those partys cause I meet the criteria I would never do. It's usually trap bait and I try to stay away of those. Still nothing I would consider harrassment or discrimination. ö.ö Just something to shrug about and move on (and do some jokes about with your triends). Let the idiots be idiots and wait in their unfilled party forever. ^^

[SaitoHikari]

We have some of those on Chaos as well. While I could join those partys cause I meet the criteria I would never do. It's usually trap bait and I try to stay away of those. Still nothing I would consider harrassment or discrimination. ö.ö Just something to shrug about and move on (and do some jokes about with your triends). Let the idiots be idiots and wait in their unfilled party forever. ^^

Trap bait indeed.

During the first week of 4.2, I ended up in a Byakko EX party led by a DRK tank with a PF description that was basically 'I want elitists with 90+% percentile scores'. I actually had a historical percentile of 100 for the fight already, only because I had the highest recorded DPS for days 1-2. Never said a word though, even when he started worshiping me even though I knew it wasn't that big a deal (getting high historicals during the first week is really more a matter of luck -especially for Bard-, and I guess ability to learn/adapt mid-run/guess mechanics very very quickly). I did manage to convince him to stop checking the damn parses and let a bunch of people who claimed that they were stuck at enrage and just wanted to clear stay in the party, if only because he was going to be waiting forever with the criteria he set. That, and I checked -his- records and knew something was up with him.

Indeed, when we got in, he didn't even know how to properly tank swap, so I watched in horror as it was either me or the poor RDM that got repeatedly slam dunk'd into the ground even WITH our enmity reduction skills. After several pulls, we all decided enough was enough and we weren't going to carry him to a clear, especially when he started blaming the rest of us for not DPSing fast enough and not using our enmity reduction properly. I left and tried to reform the party while looking for a different tank, and about 4 members of the old party returned. We cleared first pull, which meant that the failure to tank swap during the slams was the only reason we failed to clear before. Oh, and it turned out that half of the new party earned their first clear that run too.

We went on to farm 8 or so runs, a few people left, got a few more people that came in their clears, and so on without any issues... There were apparently other people parsing me because I got tells from a few of the party members wondering how the hell I was doing so much damage as a Bard. Bard is really easy in Byakko EX though.

[AmeliaVerves]

Trap bait indeed.

Ye, idk what's up with those people but I see it all the time. Ofc I get curious when I see such PFs and I check the party leaders logs. Mostly those are people who are slightly above average, with an mediocre median avg % (at best) and only one or two lucky runs (mostly padded by ast friends).
Not the type of people I want to play with, so I just ignore their PFs and join some normal farm partys or help out with clears whenever I feel like it.

Well. I do have to admit that maybe one or two times I joined such PFs with friends and we had our fun trolling the party leader who was acting all cocky and arrogant when we asked him about his median avg %. Not nice, I know, but well noone can be nice and gentle all the time I guess.

[Ilan]

Ye, idk what's up with those people but I see it all the time. Ofc I get curious when I see such PFs and I check the party leaders logs. Mostly those are people who are slightly above average, with an mediocre median avg % (at best) and only one or two lucky runs (mostly padded by ast friends).
Not the type of people I want to play with, so I just ignore their PFs and join some normal farm partys or help out with clears whenever I feel like it.

Well. I do have to admit that maybe one or two times I joined such PFs with friends and we had our fun trolling the party leader who was acting all cocky and arrogant when we asked him about his median avg %. Not nice, I know, but well noone can be nice and gentle all the time I guess.

I remember our groups during HW, when bird farming was still a thing, with a text like: "xyz farm bring high dps we'll check your fflogs....". If you went to check theirs, they pretty often didn't even clear the fight or just killed it once or twice. Not to forget all the "Skip soar or disband" groups where the leaders didn't pull their weight and just expected a carry.

[NessaWyvern]

Not to forget all the "Skip soar or disband" groups where the leaders didn't pull their weight and just expected a carry.

I joined a party for that once, and it was a lootmaster. Turns out the DRG partly leader had never cleared it, and was dead on the ground for most of the time. When we called him out on it, he said something along the lines of "It's my party, I can do what I want". We all left and blacklisted.

[Ilan]

I joined a party for that once, and it was a lootmaster. Turns out the DRG partly leader had never cleared it, and was dead on the ground for most of the time. When we called him out on it, he said something along the lines of "It's my party, I can do what I want". We all left and blacklisted.

Well yeah he is right he can open a party like that. But i completly understand you and the others and i would've done the same.

[van_arn]

Trap bait indeed.

During the first week of 4.2, I ended up in a Byakko EX party led by a DRK tank with a PF description that was basically 'I want elitists with 90+% percentile scores'. I actually had a historical percentile of 100 for the fight already, only because I had the highest recorded DPS for days 1-2. Never said a word though, even when he started worshiping me even though I knew it wasn't that big a deal (getting high historicals during the first week is really more a matter of luck -especially for Bard-, and I guess ability to learn/adapt mid-run/guess mechanics very very quickly). I did manage to convince him to stop checking the damn parses and let a bunch of people who claimed that they were stuck at enrage and just wanted to clear stay in the party, if only because he was going to be waiting forever with the criteria he set. That, and I checked -his- records and knew something was up with him.

Indeed, when we got in, he didn't even know how to properly tank swap, so I watched in horror as it was either me or the poor RDM that got repeatedly slam dunk'd into the ground even WITH our enmity reduction skills. After several pulls, we all decided enough was enough and we weren't going to carry him to a clear, especially when he started blaming the rest of us for not DPSing fast enough and not using our enmity reduction properly. I left and tried to reform the party while looking for a different tank, and about 4 members of the old party returned. We cleared first pull, which meant that the failure to tank swap during the slams was the only reason we failed to clear before. Oh, and it turned out that half of the new party earned their first clear that run too.

We went on to farm 8 or so runs, a few people left, got a few more people that came in their clears, and so on without any issues... There were apparently other people parsing me because I got tells from a few of the party members wondering how the hell I was doing so much damage as a Bard. Bard is really easy in Byakko EX though.

I had a gladiator 70 wanting a carry through Tsukibadanimevillain EX last night. "It's not a big deal," he said. Son, if you're not going to put in the effort to do your job quests I'm not going to help carry you. The dude somehow had 6 people in his PF.