Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

[Miste]

If I am acting like it is a fact then I apologize but I'm just making a link between the many incidents I have seen in game and all of them involving parsing. As for the learning party I believe in the mechanics before dps mindset when I am learning a fight. Dupe jobs and low dps is acceptable there to me but if someone in the party tried to ruin the learning party by belittling people's numbers than maybe they shouldnt be in a learning party. It makes others feel overwhelmed and uncomfortable.

It's fine, just saying things like "it's common sense" implies that if people don't agree with your opinion then they lack that generally good quality to have, which isn't really true...also calling people delusional if they don't agree with your opinion on this is a bit much. Still, no need to apologize, it's not a big deal or anything, I just figured you should maybe know how it comes across to others possibly.

Yeah, mechanics definitely come first I agree, but you didn't say that anyone was belittling with the numbers, you only said what I assumed meant "someone posted the numbers in chat in a learning party", numbers on their own isn't harassment or belittling...only if people take those numbers and be jerks to people with them which I understand it likely can happen, but I believe that people who will be jerks will be jerks even without a parser; they just find some other thing to be a jerk about like how many times you died, or made mechanic mistakes etc. So the frequency may or may not change, we don't know.

Anyone who claims parser numbers on their own is harassment well...that is untrue in my opinion. Numbers are just numbers. Facts have nothing to do with feelings nor are they inherently malicious. It is just information. What people do with that information can turn into harassment, or praise, or any number of things, but if no one says anything? It's just data.

[Vstarstruck]

I can't say for certain, but to touch on the Koike. It's incredibly naive and shortsighted to fault parsers for what happened to that streamer. Take parsers away and that doesn't change the sexual harassment, twitter stalker and the sheer degree of verbal abuse they slung at her.

Welcome to SE's logic? That is how we got forced MSQ cs and removal of feast chat.

[Ruf]

tanks are Defiance hogs

& sir would be one of the warriors i dont want to be healer for, glad theres a kick vote in the game.

P.s: I understand how you feel JohnSeal, i actually dealt with Hyomin & her crew before! Hey all, PARSE BLOW, now enjoy reading my logs as you so like doing ppl.

[Jijifli]

& sir would be one of the warriors i dont want to be healer for, glad theres a kick vote in the game.

But Defiance doesn't give any defensive stats. Just makes you heal them more with cure (It doesn't work on OGCD's.)

If anything I'd feel like Square don't want Warrior's in tank stance. Even moreso than wanting Dark Knight to stance dance.

[Lunalepsy]

Because this game is totally streamlined and it's better to measure all kinds of variables than to enjoy the game for what it is. This game has hit an unbreakable wall! The vertical method is collapsing and there is nothing else to recycle. Measuring someone's performance is a way for people to brag about rights and be selective between each other. It's just a tool of selection and exclusion. There is no sense of communion or belonging since you can solo the game at this point.

[JunseiKei]

Welcome to SE's logic? That is how we got forced MSQ cs and removal of feast chat.

To be fair, the Feast chat was absolutely horrendous. I can't believe some of the messages that were being sent when SE was pushing Feast really hard. Screenshots from friends from what they experienced, just from lapse of judgement on their part. The vetern XIV PvPers were not at all friendly by any means to having new blood competing if they were stuck with them on the same team.

I mean jeeze, I remember a friend being upset and posting a screenshot of someone telling her to uninstall and hang herself because of a loss. Told her to report the player, but the fact it was even said is just astonishing.

About the topic, I don't care about parses. I take issue when people use it as a leaderboard or to bar people from content they can do. In some other thread, I had talked about Aether having a few PFs with number/log requirements to join. People came back and said they've been online all week or something and said they never saw anything. I hadn't taken screenshots because I generally don't for those sorts of things and my comment basically got talked down to a 'pic or it didn't happen' status.

Late, but they do exist:

This was earlier today on Aether. This is the kind of stuff as to what makes me not like parsing (actually, it's more FFLogs than parsing, because of the leaderboard-like settings that some people seem to like pushing). I fully expect a 'their party, their rules' or 'make your own party' statement to be typed, or something to do with play styles. My main point to this particular screenshot is to have grey DPS means you have cleared the fight (it just means you might not have had a particularly good comp to boost your numbers) or haven't quite the gear to get better numbers. That speaks nothing of your competence. :\

[Sir_Johni]

& sir would be one of the warriors i dont want to be healer for, glad theres a kick vote in the game.

P.s: I understand how you feel JohnSeal, i actually dealt with Hyomin & her crew before! Hey all, PARSE BLOW, now enjoy reading my logs as you so like doing ppl.

Ah yes, Scholar will have so much of a hard time healing with 0GCDs, oh wait a sec, 0GCDs don't even get affected by Defiance healing increase, oooh boi so I just get padded HP without increasing my EHP on an encounter, so useful

And guess what, I have both healed and tanked content, the tanks that are easier to deal with are the better tanks which tend to stay in DPS stance since that actually requires maximizing the usage of your CDs instead of sitting on the comfy cushion of tank stance

Just give at a try, search a medium parsing Warrior on Train and then compare it with a higher parsing one, you'll find that tanks that push their DPS also mitigate better

[Genoreaper]

For those who dont want parsers do you follow a Roration for your dps? Where do you think that came from theory crafting is good yes but practice makes perfect. In some way or another most of us have benefited from parsers.

But really if you don't want us to know our dps as dps, let's remove health bars for healers because they should just know, and remove aggro signs for tanks because If they just play like they should it will be good enough.

The game boils down to numbers, if my job is to do the most damage possible let me see and adjust it as needed. I've avoided raiding BECAUSE I want to go in doing the best I can. I've only done some of Alexander, bahamut and VA.

If you don't want us to know let's remove all floating number and treat every encounter with the same vagueness as sea stone and sky, just focus on blindly melting health bars with no numbers during a time limit

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

& sir would be one of the warriors i dont want to be healer for, glad theres a kick vote in the game.

P.s: I understand how you feel JohnSeal, i actually dealt with Hyomin & her crew before! Hey all, PARSE BLOW, now enjoy reading my logs as you so like doing ppl.

As if any bit of content outside of savage actually necessitates tank stance, nothing hits hard enough to warrant it, you can beat Swallows Nest doing big pulls completely in DPS stance and barely need a heal (I've literally had the fairy heal the entire dungeon before, aside from a few Indoms, I didn't need anything else)

Also, Warrior tank stance does not mitigate, only increase healing, so it doesn't even work on oGCD's, not to mention that tanks who push DPS tend to be better at mitigating stuff than tanks who squat in tank stance, because they don't need to, obviously tank stance will protect them.

Kicking someone for such a silly reason is a real dick move, especially when they just want to do their best for the group.

[Jijifli]

I do want to make note that, if the only thing they are going to look at is your dps number and go, "It's gray, you're instantly garbage" then no, they aren't a party you want to be in. Someone did actually upload a gray parse, as my only one, for O6 on BLM, and people were kicking me out of O7 parties the same day over it. But nobody wanted to check, which I easily learned how to, that I died to pains from the warrior and remained dead for 1/5 of the fight. And according to the same data, I was averaging over 6k dps, which for BLM according to the site, is ~70%, which is colored in blue.

Though, I am a BLM. This party probably didn't even allow one to join. And as for the O7 kicking, the only one that finally didn't this week killed it instantly, and said they did check, and saw I was dead for 2 straight minutes and still managed over 4k. XD