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    Dark's don't use unleash once Abyssal Drain is learned.

    Warriors can generate a large amount of global threat through Thrill of Battle and Equillibrium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Dark's don't use unleash once Abyssal Drain is learned.
    Okay, I've seen this before, but since the game doesn't explicit numerize Enmity gain for various skills, does Unleash generate less Threat than Abyssal Drain?
    Also Unleash has better ease of use. Abyssal requires a target, while Unleash just requires said targets to be in range. If it is that Abyssal Drain turns out to be better than Unleash, then Dark Knight needs a new spell to make up for not needing unleash on my front crossbars. I suppose there is the rare occasion you get pulled into a low level dungeon, below the level of Abyssal Drain, but even then you can stop and change something in I guess.I'm think Dark Knight needs a new low level spell that stays relevant at higher levels.
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    Last edited by Selvokaz; 07-24-2018 at 03:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvokaz View Post
    Okay, I've seen this before, but since the game doesn't explicit numerize Enmity gain for various skills, does Unleash generate less Threat than Abyssal Drain?
    Also Unleash has better ease of use. Abyssal requires a target, while Unleash just requires said targets to be in range.
    Unleash generates a lot more aggro than Abyssal, but shouldn't be used for dps purposes in any circumstance. Only use Unleash to grab groups of adds, or increase your aggro meter when you really need to in trash pulls. Abyssal should be used as a dps gain in mobs of 4+.

    When your fighting mobs of 6+ you can Dark Arts+Abyssal Drain to get Hp back to ease the stress on Healers when doing large pulls. Just make sure to back this up with Quietus and Blood price for constant mp regeneration to fuel the Dark Art+Abyssal Drains. If you're out of MP total, Do your Syphon Strike combo for 2400mp back. Also using The Blackest Night fuels more Quietus and mitigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvokaz View Post
    Okay, I've seen this before, but since the game doesn't explicit numerize Enmity gain for various skills, does Unleash generate less Threat than Abyssal Drain?
    Also Unleash has better ease of use. Abyssal requires a target, while Unleash just requires said targets to be in range. If it is that Abyssal Drain turns out to be better than Unleash, then Dark Knight needs a new spell to make up for not needing unleash on my front crossbars. I suppose there is the rare occasion you get pulled into a low level dungeon, below the level of Abyssal Drain, but even then you can stop and change something in I guess.I'm think Dark Knight needs a new low level spell that stays relevant at higher levels.
    Unleash is 50 at like a 13x modifier or something.

    Abyssal Drain is 120 at x5 or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Unleash is 50 at like a 13x modifier or something.

    Abyssal Drain is 120 at x5 or so.
    Unleash has a 20.6x modifier, so it's 50 x 20.6 = 1030 enmity. Abyssal Drain is 120 x 5 = 600 enmity.

    so Unleash for more enmity, Abyssal Drain for more damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Unleash has a 20.6x modifier, so it's 50 x 20.6 = 1030 enmity. Abyssal Drain is 120 x 5 = 600 enmity.

    so Unleash for more enmity, Abyssal Drain for more damage.
    So Abyssal Drain.
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  7. 07-24-2018 08:31 AM
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    Enmity modifiers mentioned were incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Abyssal Drain has only straight damage-to-enmity (1x modifier).
    Wrong.
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