Overpower

[Ekimmak]

I still wish Warrior had some sort of Flash variant. One of the very first 70 dungeons was built in such a way to ensure that you see the limitations of Overpower.

[Hierro]

Abyssal Drain has only straight damage-to-enmity (1x modifier).

Wrong.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Wrong.

T h a n k y o u.

All those wrong enmity values made me uncomfortable.

[Lyth]

Steel Cyclone is a circular PBAoE enmity tool.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Abyssal Drain is not smaller than Unleash, they both have an area of effect of 5y.

Good catch. Id have to agree then, it must have been just poor positioning when we noticed the difference.

I still wish Warrior had some sort of Flash variant. One of the very first 70 dungeons was built in such a way to ensure that you see the limitations of Overpower.

Try to save Steel Cyclones for those pulls. THe real issue is how long u have to wait for them, when u have no tools at lower MRD levels to maintain your TP. a new GLD can spam flash, and a new DRK can spam unleash, which helps a ton as a newer player undergeared against geared players (and more so SAM/RDM at low levels)

But WAR was meant to use zerk before each overpower, with its lowered CD, but then they upped it CD again, and now MRD has a bit of an issue with threat and TP compared to the other 2. (Of course what i consider a problem, and what others consider "good enough" is different, as many people who claim to be fine and hold perfect hate as is, usually only hold 80-90% of the hate, rather than a full 100%, and its arguably ok, since low levels dont hurt DPS much. But this gets new tanks to think not holding hate better at HL is fine.)

[Xenosan]

Can try with Marauder to keep a distance ahead of the rest of your team so have a little extra time to 'face-pull through' the mob pack. They'll collapse into a tight group quickly and then start Overpower.

Abyssal Drain is not smaller than Unleash, they both have an area of effect of 5y.

5y starting from the edge of target enemy's hitbox or 5y from it's center? There are occasional times where I get a stupid AD whiff and the anger starts.

So I pull with drk not too differently than i do war just to keep that in check. Could start with an Unleash but if WAR doesn't need, then DRK shouldn't either I guess

[Claire_Pendragon]

Can try with Marauder to keep a distance ahead of the rest of your team so have a little extra time to 'face-pull through' the mob pack. They'll collapse into a tight group quickly and then start Overpower.

5y starting from the edge of target enemy's hitbox or 5y from it's center? There are occasional times where I get a stupid AD whiff and the anger starts.

Actually I just realized why I thought the radius was smaller, and why my friends parser was showing different numbers.

lets give an example of a simple 3 mob pull.
each mob can be 6y away from eachother, preventing AD from hitting more than 1 target, if u target a mob with it. but if u stand in the middle of all 3, unleash will reach all 3.

This is why i just always assumed the circle was smaller, mixed with the slightly smaller looking animation.
never actually thought to double check up on that.

[TouchandFeel]

5y starting from the edge of target enemy's hitbox or 5y from it's center?

5y starting from the center of the target and needing to reach at least the edge of the other mob's hitbox to register that mob getting hit, not edge of hitbox to edge of hitbox.

lets give an example of a simple 3 mob pull.

Precisely. If two mobs are 6y apart, targeting one with Abyssal would obviously not hit the other but running into the middle of them and using Unleash would, not because it is bigger but because you have changed the emanation point and so the distance is no longer the 6y between the mobs but instead the ~3y between you and the targets, allowing Unleash to hit them both.

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Overall look at it like this, if you were standing exactly where your target is standing and you used Unleash, would it hit the other mob/mobs?
If yes, then Abyssal would also hit them.

While potentially confusing if you are not the best at spacial parsing and correlation, the fact that it works like this is also one of it's greatest strengths.
Take for example the most common usage of the ability, using it on a large group of mobs to do damage and keep agro.
Since the emanation point is based on the target and is independent of your location, you can target a mob that is roughly in the center of the pack and spam Abyssal while keeping the entire pack to one side of you and never having to step into the pack to make sure you hit them all which makes it easier, at least imo, to keep the pack grouped and organized as you want them.

[Tint]

Unleash is 50 at like a 13x modifier or something.

Abyssal Drain is 120 at x5 or so.

Unleash has a 20.6x modifier, so it's 50 x 20.6 = 1030 enmity. Abyssal Drain is 120 x 5 = 600 enmity.

so Unleash for more enmity, Abyssal Drain for more damage.

[FPZ]

Great idea, should not be a target cast, it can get quite annoying at times angling it.