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    Th surcharge is perfect.

    They even stated by/after 1.20b it will change it up a bit and we all know that patches xa/xb come fairly quickly after the base patch. As for no players names ... It's not the player selling it, it's the retainer thus it displays the name of the retainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Th surcharge is perfect.

    They even stated by/after 1.20b it will change it up a bit and we all know that patches xa/xb come fairly quickly after the base patch. As for no players names ... It's not the player selling it, it's the retainer thus it displays the name of the retainer.
    Really? Show me where it shows the name of the retainer in the History:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    Really? Show me where it shows the name of the retainer in the History:
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    Too bad they don't show the name of the player who owns the retainer in the MW.
    Do you even remember what you post about? So you should probably be a lot more clearer on what you're regarding, given there is a reason the names of the retainer owner isn't displayed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    Really? Show me where it shows the name of the retainer in the History:

    You're a total derp... who cares about the history of what did sell.. you can see who is selling what right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye View Post
    You're a total derp... who cares about the history of what did sell.. you can see who is selling what right now

    Nice personal attack!!! GFY!!! Good for you!

    Who cares? Is that the best you can come up with for an argument? Pathetic.
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    It's good to see the names of retainers in the sales history too, so you can see if someone is trying to scam the markets by buying things from themselves over and over again.

    It would be suspicious to me if all 20 entries in the history were from the same person. However because I can't see the name, who knows if they were legitimate purchases or not.

    Imo, putting in a sales history without proper safeguards against rmt/scammers is a big mistake. They should leave out the sales history for now until they are more prepared with a more complete system.

    Now I understand that the history gets erased during server maintenance which helps in some ways. However it also just gives people another opportunity to throw things way out of whack every maintenance. After every maintenance the prices will be like as if the items just came out for the first time. People will take advantage of this clean slate and try to manipulate prices every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    It's good to see the names of retainers in the sales history too, so you can see if someone is trying to scam the markets by buying things from themselves over and over again.

    It would be suspicious to me if all 20 entries in the history were from the same person. However because I can't see the name, who knows if they were legitimate purchases or not.

    Imo, putting in a sales history without proper safeguards against rmt/scammers is a big mistake. They should leave out the sales history for now until they are more prepared with a more complete system.

    Now I understand that the history gets erased during server maintenance which helps in some ways. However it also just gives people another opportunity to throw things way out of whack every maintenance. It'll be like after every maintenance the prices will be like as if the items just came out for the first time.
    You wouldn't see who bought them... how would you know who owns the retainer?

    So you want to see.. the historical purchases [Price X Quantity - Date + Time - Purchaser - Seller(retainer) - Owner of Retainer]

    Cobalt lawlcarpet
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer
    42,308 X 7 12/07/2011 17:48 Joe Tainer JoesRetainer Joe Tainer


    All those undercutters will be happy


    You can see the retainer name of who is selling something now... if you see on the current sales list
    42,308 for the item and Joe Tainer and all you see in the history is the example above, but someone else is selling the item for 12K... which one you buying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    It's good to see the names of retainers in the sales history too, so you can see if someone is trying to scam the markets by buying things from themselves over and over again.

    It would be suspicious to me if all 20 entries in the history were from the same person. However because I can't see the name, who knows if they were legitimate purchases or not.

    Imo, putting in a sales history without proper safeguards against rmt/scammers is a big mistake. They should leave out the sales history for now until they are more prepared with a more complete system.

    Now I understand that the history gets erased during server maintenance which helps in some ways. However it also just gives people another opportunity to throw things way out of whack every maintenance. After every maintenance the prices will be like as if the items just came out for the first time. People will take advantage of this clean slate and try to manipulate prices every time.
    Agree with this, this is why I think an average system similar to Vindictus would be so much better.

    SE should keep the history prices hidden and display an average price over the last 20 sold items instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    Nice personal attack!!! GFY!!! Good for you!

    Who cares? Is that the best you can come up with for an argument? Pathetic.
    GFY GOOD FY GOOD FOR Y GOOD FOR YOU! So good you told me twice!

    Personal attack? Calling a derp a massive attack. Derpaholics anonymous is calling you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    You had to google it to figure it out. That's funny. I can't believe you got the Horton hears a Who reference. Congratulations!

    I do believe that the masses have spoken and your "Who cares" question has been answered.

    Why you are trying to argue against having retainer owners being displayed is beyond me. I think that it would impart a degree of responsibility so that people cannot hide behind their anonymity in the market wards. Feel free to disagree.

    Could you imagine the forums without people like you complaining about complaints.
    Then the forums would be full of complaints! That would wonderful. Doom and Gloom threads are the best.

    I don't understand you're "hiding behind retainer" thing... who's hiding? Do you think the person undercutting you cares if you know their name? /tell undercutter sammy "Stop undercutting me man, its hurting my feelings" /r "gfy"


    And PS I already knew what it meant derp, the more common is GFY is good for you - proven by it showing up first on a search from multiple sources.

    Sometimes I can't help but think of the nerd sitting on the other side of the screen, then I stand up - kiss my super model girl friend, flex my 8-pack abs, go to my garage do a burn out in my lambo with the butterfly doors and drive off to my yacht where I play FFXIV while bathing in sunshine. Stop being such a hater.
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