4.4: Role Action slots increased to 10. Thoughts?

[Magic-Mal]

If you equip every class/job abilities plus your 5 cross role skills as PLD or SCH that can take you over two hotbars (that's without including fairy actions). Compared to WHM or DRG which after setting their job abilities and cross skills still have some extra space free. There is some major difference in how many abilities some jobs have regardless.

I have BRD, MCH, SMN, AST, WHM, DRK, and DRG at 70. Never had a problem with crossbar slots.

[Kurando]

I have BRD, MCH, SMN, AST, WHM, DRK, and DRG at 70. Never had a problem with crossbar slots.

Well that's ok because I never mentioned any of those jobs having issues.

[Magic-Mal]

Well that's ok because I never mentioned any of those jobs having issues.

For PLD, Hallowed Ground is like a 5min cool down that's super situational so it doesn't need to be in the main 2 bars. Shield Oath and Sword Oath aren't swapped constantly right? And they aren't oGCDs like WAR or DRK so you could stick those into a different hotbar as well. Tempered Will? That's super situational too. Different hotbar. You already have 4 slots free now.

EDIT: Both Sentinel and Bulwark are 3min so you can easily slide those to another bar as well. Just make sure any cooldowns in an extra bar are still visible by putting them in sidebars.

I know very little about SCH but I know the pet actions can be set to another bar like Crossbar 4. That's alot of space free. That's what I do with my SMN.

[HyoMinPark]

I have BRD, MCH, SMN, AST, WHM, DRK, and DRG at 70. Never had a problem with crossbar slots.

Well, Kurando said PLD and SCH tend to have hotbar space issues. None of those are PLD or SCH.
Those are the only two jobs where I find myself pressed for button space; I play on controller and have always used the extended cross (L2+Hold R2, and vise-versa).

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It’s all speculation. Just like it’s speculation that Stoneskin would have been useful. I personally think Benison is better than Stoneskin was—it’s free cast/no cost and it protects for more. It wasn’t often that I saw healers casting single-target Stoneskins on an entire party.

[Aster_E]

It’s all speculation. Just like it’s speculation that Stoneskin would have been useful. I personally think Benison is better than Stoneskin was—it’s free cast/no cost and it protects for more. It wasn’t often that I saw healers casting single-target Stoneskins on an entire party.

In HW certainly, less people single-cast Stoneskin in the middle of a fight, and SS only did 10% Max Health mitigation. In ARR it was totally more of a thing, which I had to learn when I healed even Garuda Ex or Levi Ex (especially on lower HP party members). Back then SS did 20%, and was wonderful to have, even with a Sch's mitigations. That much isn't speculation but actual history; also history were the White Mages who overdid it on casting and replenishing SS, and wondering why they had no MP.

Compare to now when I run something on Whm instead of Sch, and I find myself either sitting on my thumbs until the raid damage is done and over with, or else pre-casting Medica II so the regen will help the Medica or Cure III post major attack.

I'm glad you agree it's all speculation, though, as to how much use Stoneskin would be these days. With my luck, the effect would have been dropped to 5%, which would certainly have been a waste, imo. What I'm saying, however, is that it would be nice to have a fully re-instated stoneskin. Between that and shields from Sch or Ast (in Noct), something like Neo's Almagest would be less heal intensive. Would it be likely to have this again? No. But still nice to think about, and hurts thinking about when enemy mobs, current ones, use it.