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    4.4: Role Action slots increased to 10. Thoughts?

    It seems to me that the developers are acknowledging that there are issues with the role actions and this is the quick band-aid fix for it. I hope they can come up with a better long term solution.

    As a healer, now I can put Break on my hotbar and never use it. /s

    Also, so much for reducing button bloat.

    Edit because this has been necro'd: I'm not complaining, I'm just pointing out how silly it is that so many abilities were pruned for Role actions in the name of reducing button bloat from classes, then restrict those available to five and then they give them all out. Despite the fact that things like Provoke and Esuna shouldn't be optional buttons to begin with. They're basically mandatory. As a healer, there have been times where I wish I'd had more than 5 abilities and I'm glad for the change.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 09-13-2018 at 01:12 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    if you acknowledge that it's a band-aid fix, you shouldn't complain about the irritations of it being a band-aid.

    they very likely will do more about it in the next expansion. until then you can continue to not use the extra slots, it won't make you unable to complete any of the new fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    if you acknowledge that it's a band-aid fix, you shouldn't complain about the irritations of it being a band-aid.
    So if I'm aware I've been shot in the gut, I shouldn't complain about the gut-wound?

    I'm not saying the irritations here are severe, nor am I saying they haven't been lessened with the change, but how does that warrant make any sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    So if I'm aware I've been shot in the gut, I shouldn't complain about the gut-wound?

    I'm not saying the irritations here are severe, nor am I saying they haven't been lessened with the change, but how does that warrant make any sense?
    because those are not equivalent. the OP is not complaining about being shot in the gut, the OP is complaining about being in an ambulance to be taken to the hospital. like why are they not doing surgery of your gunshot wound right there in the street? you know why. why are you in the ambulance? you know why.

    if you want to talk about how to actually reduce button bloat or how to have jobs feel different but not crippling them (like only one healer has Esuna and the others not, or only one tank can Provoke), those are the actual "shot in the gut" issues.

    as a healer, i'm still not going to map Rescue or Cleric Stance, all the other stuff that gets used are already mapped, some of them are just grayed out most of the time and now they won't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    because those are not equivalent. the OP is not complaining about being shot in the gut, the OP is complaining about being in an ambulance to be taken to the hospital. like why are they not doing surgery of your gunshot wound right there in the street? you know why. why are you in the ambulance? you know why.
    I wasn't complaining about anything in the OP (hence the /s) but thanks for attempting to put words in my mouth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor View Post
    Do we need even more proof that Square really has no idea what they are doing? There have been so many bandaid fixes this xpac.
    Seems like their bad code and game systems are really catching up to them.
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    I never ever had any issue with 5 slots. Now with 10 slots we will have to take more slots to our hotbar just because mastery.
    They could open to 6 or 7, but 10 it to put the whole system into trash.
    I'm fine with 5.
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    Have to remember now if DPS even have 10 role abilities....

    Actually, I think that they're bumping it up to 10 rather than just adding a couple more is a sign that they have to be adding more role abilities at some point in time.
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    They should just leave role actions as being skills which are required by every job of said role and remove the fluff added to give the illusion of choice.
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    The game is easy enough as it is -.- sure why not make it easier so people can still complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    The game is easy enough as it is -.- sure why not make it easier so people can still complain.
    I mean if all you do is dungeons of course the game is easy.
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